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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/23/2012 08:45 AM, Rossen
      Apostolov wrote:<br>
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      On 2012-08-21 22.08, Szil&aacute;rd P&aacute;ll wrote:<br>
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        type="cite"> I'm quite puzzled why is the gmx-users still
        rejecting non-plain text messages. There has not been a single
        opinion in favor of keeping the mailing list&nbsp;crippled.</blockquote>
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      Erik wrote already in this thread why he changed the setting.<br>
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    I think most of us agree on not allowing attachments.<br>
    But not allowing html makes quickly replying to the mailing list
    cumbersome,<br>
    which makes the mailing list less useful, as less people will reply.<br>
    All developers, except for Erik who didn't veto it either, are in
    favor of allowing<br>
    html content. So I would ask to allow html content again.<br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    <br>
    Berk<br>
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        <div>So &nbsp;once again, Rossen (or someone else with the
          appropriate credentials), please revert the setting!</div>
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      Check with him on that.<br>
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      Rossen<br>
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              Szil&aacute;rd<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM,
                Berk Hess <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    <div class="h5">On 07/20/2012 01:55 PM, Justin
                      Lemkul wrote:<br>
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                        On 7/19/12 6:56 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:<br>
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                          solid;padding-left:1ex"> On 5/07/2012 11:24
                          PM, Rossen Apostolov wrote:<br>
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                            style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                            #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Dear all,<br>
                            <br>
                            Recently the Gromacs mailing lists have been
                            used for sending spam and<br>
                            viruses, and thus now only plain text
                            messages are accepted.<br>
                            <br>
                            If you have received rejected mails saying
                            "The message's content type was not<br>
                            explicitly allowed" it means that you have
                            used in your mail special styles or<br>
                            formatting (e.g. bold typeface, colors
                            etc.).<br>
                            <br>
                            Check your email client settings about how
                            to send messages as plain text,<br>
                            e.g. in GMail make sure to click on "Compose
                            -&gt; Plain Text". Check also<br>
                            whether a formatted signature is added.<br>
                            <br>
                            Attachments are also not allowed but you
                            could include links for downloads.<br>
                            <br>
                            Rossen<br>
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                          Bump.<br>
                          <br>
                          I'm happy banning attachments (there's lots of
                          free upload space out there), but<br>
                          think that explicitly requiring plain text
                          email is a significant barrier to<br>
                          participation. Some web mail clients don't
                          permit a non-HTML mime type - that's<br>
                          not our fault but we have to live in that
                          jungle. Some people will walk away<br>
                          without bothering to find out if they can
                          configure plain text email. Others<br>
                          will judge the technical competence of the
                          team on their ability to run the<br>
                          mailing list. If we need to outsource it
                          somewhere, we should do that.<br>
                          <br>
                          Mark<br>
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                        I agree with Mark here. &nbsp;It seems to me that
                        traffic to the list has been down for a couple
                        of weeks relative to normal, but there may be
                        other factors for that. &nbsp;What I do know is that
                        I'm getting increasing amounts of emails to my
                        personal inbox starting with "I can't post to
                        the Gromacs list, so I'm sending this to you..."
                        That's an increased burden I'm not willing to
                        bear. &nbsp;I'm all for community contributions (you
                        all know that ;) but as soon as it becomes my
                        responsibility to handle Gromacs issues, I'm
                        less inclined.<br>
                        <br>
                        -Justin<br>
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                  I think everyone agrees that we need to accept html
                  mails.<br>
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                  The question is if we need some filter and when
                  Rossen, or someone else, has time to fix this.<br>
                  <br>
                  Cheers,<br>
                  <br>
                  Berk
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