<div dir="ltr">Right. Well, charge groups should be illegal :-P<div><br></div><div>Mark</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Berk Hess <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hess@kth.se" target="_blank">hess@kth.se</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>No, with charge groups you do need a
      buffer, grompp will even warn you about this.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
      <br>
      Berk</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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      On 09/12/2014 07:32 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">True for the first part, but rerun does not ever
        need a buffer, because neighbour search is every frame.
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        <div>Mark</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Berk
          Hess <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hess@kth.se" target="_blank">hess@kth.se</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
            <br>
            You can use the group scheme for the rerun only. If you use
            the same potential modifiers and add a buffer to rlist, you
            should get exactly the same answer as the Verlet scheme.<br>
            <br>
            We should come up with a way to do this with the Verlet
            scheme when we remove the group scheme.<br>
            <br>
            Cheers,<br>
            <br>
            Berk
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                On 09/12/2014 05:20 PM, Bernd Doser wrote:<br>
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                  Hi Berk,<br>
                  <br>
                  thanks for your answer. We store force contributions
                  between two atoms<br>
                  to analyze them. This storage will be performed during
                  a rerun. We want<br>
                  to exclude the unneeded interactions to speed-up the
                  rerun, since we are<br>
                  only interested in forces between two atom groups.<br>
                  <br>
                  Cheers,<br>
                  Bernd<br>
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                  On 09/12/2014 04:21 PM, Berk Hess wrote:<br>
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                    Hi,<br>
                    <br>
                    Why do you need to exclude energy group interactions
                    during rerun?<br>
                    Since you will have all the energy group pair
                    contributions you can<br>
                    manually subtract the terms you want to exclude. You
                    wouldn&#39;t even need<br>
                    a rerun for that if you used the energy groups for
                    the production run.<br>
                    <br>
                    Cheers,<br>
                    <br>
                    Berk<br>
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                    On 09/12/2014 03:26 PM, Bernd Doser wrote:<br>
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                      Dear GROMACS developers,<br>
                      <br>
                      As the energy group exclusions are not implemented
                      for the Verlet cutoff<br>
                      scheme, I am search for a alternative possibility
                      to exclude specific<br>
                      nonbonded interactions during an md rerun.<br>
                      <br>
                      One idea is to use the topology exclusion list.
                      The top-&gt;excl arrays<br>
                      could be modified for example at the beginning of
                      do_force() in<br>
                      sim_util.c. I have tested it for a small protein
                      and a water dimer and<br>
                      it works. Is there any problem doing this for more
                      complex structures or<br>
                      have anyone a better idea to exclude nonbonded
                      interactions to reduce<br>
                      computation time?<br>
                      <br>
                      Thank you very much in advance!<br>
                      <br>
                      Best regards,<br>
                      Bernd Doser<br>
                      <br>
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