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<div dir="ltr">There are a couple see for example:
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</span><div>I've seen this list, unfortunately none of those listed seemed to offer a great deal more/better functionality than slack - except perhaps HipChat with 25k history limit, or Pie with no limits _but_ data lock-in due to lack of export in the free version
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<div>I'll check these, I've seen mentioned Mattermost, but as David pointed out it does not seem to have very broad feature set yet and it requires self-hosting AFAIK.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">PS: Forgot to mention that OSS - or at least OSS-based tool would be a great benefit, but even if such an option does exist we need to find it (and it should preferably not require self-hosting).</div>
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<div>One likely reason is the barrier to start using IRC and that integration of other productivity tools is quite DYI. AFAIK these are the aspects where slack - and possibly other similar alternatives win: user-friedliness and service-integration e.g. Google
hangouts for video calls, Gihub, Dropbox/Box, Github, custom hooks (e.g. we could have jenkins, gerrit messages posted, etc.).
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<div>Interestingly Slack has won over some communities, a notable example is WP:<br>
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<div>and this post points out some of the differences between the two and why they've switched to slack.</div>
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<div>I'll wait a bit more, but if there are no competing thoughts I'll set up slack and see how well it works.<br>
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<span>2015-09-29 20:18 GMT+02:00 Szilárd Páll <<a href="mailto:pall.szilard@gmail.com" target="_blank">pall.szilard@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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> We are considering to try using a team collaboration tool for GROMACS<br>
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> As I have some experience with <a href="http://slack.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
slack.com</a> (not much, though), so I was about<br>
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