<div dir="ltr">and/or test with an earlier version of the code?<div><br></div><div>Mark</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:17 PM Berk Hess &lt;<a href="mailto:hess@kth.se">hess@kth.se</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <div>On 12/10/2015 07:59 AM, Shirts, Michael
      R. (mrs5pt) wrote:<br>
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      <div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">&gt; </font><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:16px">The work around is do not include
              fep-lambdas or mass-lambdas specification in mdp-file.</span></font></span></div>
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        Or explicitly setting the masses to be the same.  In virtually
        all cases of interest, there&#39;s a cancellation of the kinetic
        energy term (one is interested in  solvent alchemical change -
        ideal gas change or solvent alchemical change - protein complex
        alchemical change).</div>
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        I mean, the error shouldn&#39;t be there, but it&#39;s a very easy error
        to work around.</div>
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    This contribution also converges very quickly to its equilibrium
    value which is trivial to calculate.<br>
    <br>
    But I don&#39;t see any obvious bug in the code (but it&#39;s quite
    complex). Does this happen with MPI and/or thread parallelization?<br>
    Could you file an issue <a href="http://redmine.gromacs.org" target="_blank">redmine.gromacs.org</a> and attach a tpr file
    that reproduces the problem?<br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    <br>
    Berk</div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><br>
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          <span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>&lt;<a href="mailto:gromacs.org_gmx-developers-bounces@maillist.sys.kth.se" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:gromacs.org_gmx-developers-bounces@maillist.sys.kth.se" target="_blank">gromacs.org_gmx-developers-bounces@maillist.sys.kth.se</a></a>&gt;
          on behalf of Igor Leontyev &lt;<a href="mailto:ileontyev@ucdavis.edu" target="_blank">ileontyev@ucdavis.edu</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>&quot;<a href="mailto:gmx-developers@gromacs.org" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:gmx-developers@gromacs.org" target="_blank">gmx-developers@gromacs.org</a></a>&quot;
          &lt;<a href="mailto:gmx-developers@gromacs.org" target="_blank">gmx-developers@gromacs.org</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday,
          December 9, 2015 at 8:24 PM<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>&quot;<a href="mailto:gmx-developers@gromacs.org" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:gmx-developers@gromacs.org" target="_blank">gmx-developers@gromacs.org</a></a>&quot;
          &lt;<a href="mailto:gmx-developers@gromacs.org" target="_blank">gmx-developers@gromacs.org</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[gmx-developers]
          dEkin/dl parallelization issue<br>
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              <p>Hi.<br>
                It looks there is a parallelization bug in computation
                of &quot;dEkin/dl&quot; term in free energy simulations.<br>
                I simulate ddG with gromacs 5.1 and mixed topology, i.e.
                need dG in protein and in water:<br>
                        ddG = dG(InProtein) - dG(InWater)<br>
                The alchemical transformation involves only one atom
                mutation H-&gt;Cl. I expect that dEkin/dl terms
                InProtein and InWater cancel each other. But it is not
                always true.<br>
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              <p>In 1 or 2 core simulations I get &lt;dEkin/dl &gt;
                value about 130 kJ/mol, for 4 and 8 cores &lt;dEkin/dl
                &gt; drops down to ~ 65 kJ/mol and for 16 cores it drops
                down again about twice.<br>
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              Igor<br>
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