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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
      <br>
      I don't understand what you mean with "A" and "C".<br>
      If you copy the table from the Gromacs top directory and change
      the wall-type, but don't change anything elase, you should get the
      same result as with 12-6.<br>
      <br>
      Cheers,<br>
      <br>
      Berk<br>
      <br>
      On 2016-02-08 14:37, Sudharsan Pandiyan wrote:<br>
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        #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Hi,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I tried with sigma =1 and epsilon = 0.25 as well for single
          particle but no success yet. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Case 1. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I put a particle at 0.5
            Angstroms from the surface and calculated potential energy
            for wall-type=12-6 with sigma = 1 and epsilon = 1. </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">The potential energy is
            16128 kJ/mol</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Case 2.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I copied the table 6-12 from
            the GROMACS top directory as table_A_wall0.xvg and did the
            same calculation this time with wall-type = table option
            with A (4*epsilon*sigma^12) and C ( </span><span
            style="font-size: 13.3333px;">4*epsilon*sigma^6) values set
            as 4 .</span></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;">The potential energy is
            1344 kJ/mol</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;">Case 3.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I copied the table 6-12 from
            the GROMACS top directory as table_A_wall0.xvg and did the
            same calculation this time with
          </span><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;">wall-type = table
            option </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> with A
            (4*epsilon/4*sigma^12) and C ( </span><span
            style="font-size: 13.3333px;">4*epsilon/4*sigma^6) values
            set as 1</span><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;">.</span></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>The potential energy is 336 KJ/mol.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>In table 6-12 from the GROMACS top directory for r value of
          0.5 we have the following values,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>r    1/r  1/r**2  -1/r**6  -6/r**7  1/r**12   12/r**13</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>5.0000000000e-01   2.0000000000e+00 4.0000000000e+00  
          -6.4000000000e+01 -7.6800000000e+02   4.0960000000e+03
          9.8304000000e+04</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>so if i take the value of
          4*epsilon*((sigma/r^12)-(sigma/r^6) = 4*1*(4096-64)=16128
          kJ/mol. This is what I get when I use wall-type = 12-6, but
          when I use wall-type = table the results are different.</div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div>PS: I also created tables manually and tried both case 2
          and 3. The results are same.</div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sorry once again for long
            email.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sincerely,</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sudharsan</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div>
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                <b>Sent:</b> 05 February 2016 16:01<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gmx-developers@gromacs.org">gmx-developers@gromacs.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gmx-developers] Wall interaction
                with tabulated potential<br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
                <br>
                I think you didn't understand my answer.<br>
                To get the same, your table should contain 1/r^12 and
                1/r^6, so you need to use sigma=1, epsilon=0.25.<br>
                <br>
                Cheers,<br>
                <br>
                Berk<br>
                <br>
                On 2016-02-05 13:11, Sudharsan Pandiyan wrote:<br>
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                    <div id="divRpF429197" style="direction:ltr">Hi,</div>
                    <div><br>
                      I tried the tabulated potential with epsilon value
                      1/4. But still no success.<br>
                      <br>
                      V(r) = 4*epsilon*((sigma/r)^12-(sigma/r)^6)<br>
                      <br>
                      sigma = 0.3<br>
                      epsilon = 0.4<br>
                      <br>
                      This is the formula I used to convert my 12-6
                      potential to a table. I tried both epsilon and
                      epsilon/4 for creating the potential. Later I used
                      this table in csg_call to convert it to a GROMACS
                      table format with 7 columns in which 6th is
                      potential and 7th is force.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vqgvz5ui7mu18r/LJ_WALL.tar.gz?dl=0"
                        target="_blank">In this link,</a> I have
                      enclosed a tar ball, which contains 5 folders with
                      1000 particles under NVT conditions,<br>
                      <br>
                      1. BULK system with 12-6 potential : vdwenergy =
                      -156.722<br>
                      <br>
                      2. BULK system with tabulated potential :
                      vdwenergy = -157.188<br>
                      <br>
                      3. Wall system with 12-6 potential : vdwenergy =
                      -170.088 A-A = -162.01 A-wall0 = -4.14596 A-wall1
                      = -3.93128<br>
                      <br>
                      4. Wall system with Table potential : vdwenergy =
                      -150.295 A-A=-161.682 A-wall0 = 5.69261 A-wall1 =
                      5.69351<br>
                      <br>
                      5. Wall system with Table and 1/4 epsilon table
                      potential : vdwenergy = -148.329 A-A=-160.637
                      A-wall0 = 6.15718 A-wall1 = 6.14995<br>
                      <br>
                      My problem is with the difference between the
                      A-wall* potentials when comparing 12-6 and
                      tabulated potentials.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Sorry for the long email but I desperately need
                      this to continue my work.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Sincerely,<br>
                      <br>
                      Sudharsan<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      ________________________________________<br>
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                      Sent: 05 February 2016 11:22<br>
                      To: Discussion list for GROMACS development<br>
                      Subject: Re: [gmx-developers] Wall interaction
                      with tabulated potential<br>
                      <br>
                      Hi,<br>
                      <br>
                      But epsilon should be 1/4 to match 1/r^12, 1/r^6.<br>
                      <br>
                      Berk<br>
                      <br>
                      On Feb 5, 2016 11:17 AM, Sudharsan Pandiyan <a
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                      wrote:<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Hi,<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; I generated the tables using the csg_call
                      routine from the VOTCA-CSG program and I input 1.0
                      for sigma and epsilon values in topol.top file (1
                      also for the combination rule). I also generated
                      the LJ particle interaction table for interaction
                      between the particles in the simulation box, which
                      gives exactly same potential energy for both table
                      potential and 12-6 potential. But the
                      wall-particle interaction produces different
                      values.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Sincerely,<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Sudharsan<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; ________________________________<br>
                      &gt; From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      &gt; Sent: 05 February 2016 11:08<br>
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                        gmx-developers@gromacs.org</a><br>
                      &gt; Subject: Re: [gmx-developers] Wall
                      interaction with tabulated potential<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Hi Berk,<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Thank you very much for quick reply. But, I
                      input 1.0 for sigma and epsilon values. Still the
                      problem persists.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Sincerely,<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Sudharsan<br>
                      &gt; ________________________________<br>
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                      &gt; Sent: 05 February 2016 10:42<br>
                      &gt; To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      &gt; Subject: Re: [gmx-developers] Wall
                      interaction with tabulated potential<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Hi,<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; You should not put sigma and epsilon in the
                      table. The dispersion and repulsion table get
                      multiplied by C6 and C12, respectively.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Cheers,<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Berk<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; On 2016-02-05 09:57, Sudharsan Pandiyan
                      wrote:<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt; Dear Gmx developers,<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt; I am trying to simulate a wall option
                      using tabulated potentials option. But it gives
                      different LJ potential values when I compare 12-6
                      potential with the tabulated potential (where the
                      table was generated using same sigma and epsilon
                      values that were used for 12-6 potential).<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt; I intend to modify my table potential
                      later so I wanted to make sure that it produces
                      correct result. But my test shows that there is a
                      difference between 12-6 and tabulated potentials
                      for wall interaction. Could you please explain
                      what is the difference and how can I get the
                      correct potential energy for tabulated potentials?<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt; PS: In the manual, its written that both
                      9-3 and 10-4 are integrated over the surface area
                      and 12-6 potential was applied directly with the
                      z-distance. But how the tabulated potential is
                      represented? (section 7.3.20)<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt; Thank you very much for your time and
                      support.<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt; Sincerely,<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt; Sudharsan<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;&gt;<br>
                      &gt;<br>
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