<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">PS: When it comes to beta testing, it’s a good idea to pull directly from gerrit or git, since that will always be more up-to-date than a fixed release tarball.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">E.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 23 May 2016, at 23:10, Erik Lindahl <<a href="mailto:erik.lindahl@gmail.com" class="">erik.lindahl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I would suggest that we just put out an updated beta tarball at the end of each week. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are a couple of additional bugs (e.g. 1958) that it would be good to include fixes for there, since we might have to change things in the verlet kernels (and then we want it carefully tested).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Erik</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 23 May 2016, at 22:57, Berk Hess <<a href="mailto:hess@kth.se" class="">hess@kth.se</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">The current beta contains a serious bug in the v-rescale thermostat, which renders it nearly useless. I think second beta might be good.<br class=""><br class="">Cheers,<br class=""><br class="">Berk<br class=""><br class="">On 05/23/2016 10:55 PM, Schulz, Roland wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:BF759D1B2ACA754496CB1E61835C71EA3BE02E@ORSMSX109.amr.corp.intel.com" type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hi,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">What’s the plan for the release? Just one beta (and no RC) and then release? One month (Jun12th) of beta<a moz-do-not-send="true" name="_MailEndCompose" class="">?<o:p class=""></o:p></a></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Roland<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="_____replyseparator" class=""></a><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gromacs.org_gmx-developers-bounces@maillist.sys.kth.se" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">gromacs.org_gmx-developers-bounces@maillist.sys.kth.se</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gromacs.org_gmx-developers-bounces@maillist.sys.kth.se" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:gromacs.org_gmx-developers-bounces@maillist.sys.kth.se</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mark Abraham<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 4, 2016 6:23 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Discussion list for GROMACS development<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gmx-developers@gromacs.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><gmx-developers@gromacs.org></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gmx-developers] Plans for GROMACS 2016 release<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Hi,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Apologies for my delays here - many tasks have come up in the last 2 months that have needed lots of my time and focus. I'll have time to do the beta release on Monday May 9. Last drinks in gerrit!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Cheers,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Mark<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:13 PM Mark Abraham <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mark.j.abraham@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mark.j.abraham@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Hi devs,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I propose a much lower-key release cycle than we have had in the past. It has dragged out too long and been too stressful for all involved :-)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On April 1, I'll fool you all and roll a release candidate from master branch HEAD, and branch release-2016 immediately. If stuff isn't merged yet, then it isn't. The one thing that can't get me fired is releasing quality code at a predictable time, and the fewer things we submit to master branch, the easier it is for me to do that job! ;-) If you need/want some code in the release, then it needs to be in Gerrit with Doxygen, user docs and test cases... real soon now! And get your reviewers interested in advance, because they're all super busy people. :-)<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Then May 1, when the worst of the known issues are handled, I'll release GROMACS 2016. That'll then give us ~6 weeks before Swedes disappear on summer holidays if we need to do 2016.1 release then.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Our long beta phases for 4.6, 5.0 and 5.1 haven't been terribly effective at finding development bugs (e.g. I broke multi-rank-per-simulation replica exchange before 5.1, and nobody noticed until the code had been out for several months; there's various other such examples). Instead, I'll use that month to prioritise the kind of exhaustive testing that has been too onerous for me to contemplate doing after a multi-month beta phase. Hopefully some of my new testing infrastructure can be reviewed and integrated by then, to make that easier.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I am planning to do a GROMACS 2016 paper, and those of you who've been working actively and regularly on the wider code base will be most welcome to help write that!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Happy coding and reviewing!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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