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<p>Thank you so much for your fast answers.</p>
So you are saying the difference from the code to the original paper (as is now also the case in the current master-branch<br>
in <span class="pl-en">updateMdLeapfrogSimple</span>()) is on purpose?<br>
It says in the paper that scaling the current v with a lambda calculated from minus half-step v is incorrect, yet<br>
acceptable since lambda changes slowly.<br>
regards Martin<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-06-09 14:29, Mark Abraham wrote:<br>
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<div>That looks like a bug that was silently fixed during the adoption of the velocity-rescale thermostat of Bussi (see commit 333641e040ae824badf9d9531290a46ad581ed53). It may be that the issue wasn't noticed because people often used parameters that produce
lg == 1...</div>
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Is debatable if one should call that a bug. The original Berendsen thermostat that this code was written for did not produce the correct ensemble anyhow, so it was likely purposely coded this way to give better/more scaling with consistently too high temperature,
as would happen with the group cut-off scheme and no pair list buffering. With the V-rescale thermostat you should scale the velocity you computed the temperature for, which are the minus half-step velocities, as is now correctly done.<br>
In practice it will be difficult to detect a difference between these two codes.<br>
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<div>I would strongly advise avoiding doing development work on unsupported versions of the software more than five years old... ;-) Get the git master branch and stay up to date with the hundreds of bugs that have been fixed since :-)</div>
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His mail didn't imply he is using an old version for development, it could just be for trying to understand the code or porting changes from an old version to master, which is good!<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:01 PM Zachmann, Martin <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:m.zachmann@tum.de">m.zachmann@tum.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Hello community!</p>
<p>i hope someone can help me understand some code changes in the do_update_md() function in update.cpp.</p>
<p>In the case where it advances r and v in the leap-frog scheme together with the berendsen thermostat<br>
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<p>(last two else if { } and else { }) in version 4.0.7. it looks like this</p>
<p><span>vv = lg*(vn + f[n][d]*w_dt);<br>
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<p><span>where lg is the lambda-scaling factor from the thermostat and w_dt is dt/m.</span></p>
<p><span>Instead in version 4.5. and higher:</span></p>
<p><span></span><span> vv = lg*vn + f[n][d]*w_dt;</span></p>
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<p><span>The original paper (<span>The Journal of Chemical Physics 81, 3684 (1984); doi: 10.1063/1.448118</span>) seems to scale</span></p>
<p><span>both old velocity and force. Btw in <span>do_update_visc</span>() scaling is done to both.</span></p>
<p><span>What is the purpose of this?</span></p>
<p><span>any help is much appreciated,</span></p>
<p><span>regards Martin<br>
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