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<DIV>I need to know since I can make a MD of a neutral LYS (NH2).<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Mauricio Arenas Salinas</DIV>
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<DIV> 1. Re: The meaning of rlist, rvdm and rcolumn (Anton Feenstra)</DIV>
<DIV> 2. CRY-ED question (Ruben Martinez Buey)</DIV>
<DIV> 3. Re: CRY-ED question (Bert de Groot)</DIV>
<DIV> 4. multiple backups (Berk Hess)</DIV>
<DIV> 5. Re: multiple backups (Nguyen Hoang Phuong)</DIV>
<DIV> 6. Re: problem with -multi (Anton Feenstra)</DIV>
<DIV> 7. Re: multiple backups (Bert de Groot)</DIV>
<DIV> 8. Re: multiple backups (Andrey V Golovin)</DIV>
<DIV> 9. Re: multiple backups (Anton Feenstra)</DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 1</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:38:57 +0200</DIV>
<DIV>From: Anton Feenstra <<A href="mailto:feenstra@chem.vu.nl">feenstra@chem.vu.nl</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] The meaning of rlist, rvdm and rcolumn</DIV>
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<DIV>Li Dawei wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> 1, In every nstlist steps, neighbor will be build. And the neighbor list</DIV>
<DIV>> contains pairs whose distance is shorter than rvdw or rcoul.</DIV>
<DIV>> 2, Only paris whose distance is shorter than rlist will be calculated in</DIV>
<DIV>> each step?</DIV>
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<DIV>> If this is the case, the actual cut-off is rlist?</DIV>
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<DIV>No. Forces for distances up to rvdw and rcoul are evaluated each</DIV>
<DIV>nstlist steps, and these forces are used till the next update (nstlist</DIV>
<DIV>steps later). Forces for distanes < rlist are evaluated each step.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> Am I rihgt? Another problem is that grompp still report that rlist>rvdm</DIV>
<DIV>> is an error even vmdtypw is set to shift.</DIV>
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<DIV>I wouldn't be surprized if the manual and the code for shift disagree...</DIV>
<DIV>IIRC, this has been discussed before on the list, have you searched for this?</DIV>
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<DIV>Groetjes,</DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 2</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:40:31 +0200</DIV>
<DIV>From: Ruben Martinez Buey <<A href="mailto:ruben@akilonia.cib.csic.es">ruben@akilonia.cib.csic.es</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: [gmx-users] CRY-ED question</DIV>
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<DIV>> Hi all,</DIV>
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<DIV>I would like to compare my MD/ED simulations with a CRY-ED analysis of my protein,</DIV>
<DIV>but I only have two crystal structures. Can I correctly deduce the essential</DIV>
<DIV>dynamics from only two experimental conformations?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks a lot in advance,</DIV>
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<DIV>Bests,</DIV>
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<DIV>Ruben</DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 3</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:01:29 +0200</DIV>
<DIV>From: Bert de Groot <<A href="mailto:bgroot@gwdg.de">bgroot@gwdg.de</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] CRY-ED question</DIV>
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<DIV>Ruben Martinez Buey wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>>> Hi all,</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> I would like to compare my MD/ED simulations with a CRY-ED analysis of</DIV>
<DIV>> my protein, but I only have two crystal structures. Can I correctly</DIV>
<DIV>> deduce the essential dynamics from only two experimental conformations?</DIV>
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<DIV>Only partially. Obviously, from a PCA in this case you'll get only one (meaningful) eigenvector:</DIV>
<DIV>the difference vector between the two conformations.</DIV>
<DIV>But this can still be used in e.g. a comparison to a simulation.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bert</DIV>
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<DIV>____________________________________________________________________________</DIV>
<DIV>Dr. Bert de Groot</DIV>
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<DIV>Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry</DIV>
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<DIV>tel: +49-551-2012308, fax: +49-551-2012302</DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 4</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:09:41 +0200</DIV>
<DIV>From: "Berk Hess" <<A href="mailto:gmx3@hotmail.com">gmx3@hotmail.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: [gmx-users] multiple backups</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
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<DIV>I would like to know what the Gromacs users think of multiple backups.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As of version 3.1.2 Gromacs makes multiple backups of files.</DIV>
<DIV>If you use the same mdrun command four times</DIV>
<DIV>in the same directory you would have for instance:</DIV>
<DIV>#md.log.1#</DIV>
<DIV>#md.log.2#</DIV>
<DIV>#md.log.3#</DIV>
<DIV>md.log</DIV>
<DIV>Before version 3.1.2 Gromacs would make only one backup</DIV>
<DIV>and you would lose all the older files:</DIV>
<DIV>#md.log#</DIV>
<DIV>md.log</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I can see that this could be useful in that you never loose files,</DIV>
<DIV>unless you type rm.</DIV>
<DIV>But personally I find all these files quite annoying and I know</DIV>
<DIV>of may people that think the same.</DIV>
<DIV>When doing analysis or when trying to start a simulation which</DIV>
<DIV>has some problems you often type the same command many</DIV>
<DIV>times and the directory is quickly flooded with more than a hundred</DIV>
<DIV>backup files. I have never used a backup file beyond the last backup.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So I propose to go back to the old system which has only</DIV>
<DIV>a single backup for each file.</DIV>
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<DIV>Berk.</DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 5</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:21:11 +0200 (MEST)</DIV>
<DIV>From: Nguyen Hoang Phuong <<A href="mailto:phuong@theochem.uni-frankfurt.de">phuong@theochem.uni-frankfurt.de</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] multiple backups</DIV>
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<DIV>> I would like to know what the Gromacs users think of multiple backups.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> As of version 3.1.2 Gromacs makes multiple backups of files.</DIV>
<DIV>> If you use the same mdrun command four times</DIV>
<DIV>> in the same directory you would have for instance:</DIV>
<DIV>> #md.log.1#</DIV>
<DIV>> #md.log.2#</DIV>
<DIV>> #md.log.3#</DIV>
<DIV>> md.log</DIV>
<DIV>> Before version 3.1.2 Gromacs would make only one backup</DIV>
<DIV>> and you would lose all the older files:</DIV>
<DIV>> #md.log#</DIV>
<DIV>> md.log</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> I can see that this could be useful in that you never loose files,</DIV>
<DIV>> unless you type rm.</DIV>
<DIV>> But personally I find all these files quite annoying and I know</DIV>
<DIV>> of may people that think the same.</DIV>
<DIV>> When doing analysis or when trying to start a simulation which</DIV>
<DIV>> has some problems you often type the same command many</DIV>
<DIV>> times and the directory is quickly flooded with more than a hundred</DIV>
<DIV>> backup files. I have never used a backup file beyond the last backup.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> So I propose to go back to the old system which has only</DIV>
<DIV>> a single backup for each file.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Berk.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I absolutely agree with Berk's idea.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Phuong</DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 6</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:40:07 +0200</DIV>
<DIV>From: Anton Feenstra <<A href="mailto:feenstra@chem.vu.nl">feenstra@chem.vu.nl</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with -multi</DIV>
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<DIV>Nguyen Hoang Phuong wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> What is the reason why I should *NOT* use this option for several</DIV>
<DIV>> normal runs ? Is it a technical problem?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There is no point. It is so much simpler to just start several independent mdruns.</DIV>
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<DIV>--</DIV>
<DIV>Groetjes,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Anton</DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 7</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:26:06 +0200</DIV>
<DIV>From: Bert de Groot <<A href="mailto:bgroot@gwdg.de">bgroot@gwdg.de</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] multiple backups</DIV>
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<DIV>Berk Hess wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> Hi,</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> I would like to know what the Gromacs users think of multiple backups.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>personally, I can live with them, but it would be nice if with e.g. an environment variable</DIV>
<DIV>one could switch back to the old, one backup only, behaviour. This environment variable</DIV>
<DIV>could optionally be defined in the GMXRC file. I would probably favour a secure default value,</DIV>
<DIV>ie multiple backups enabled.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bert</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>____________________________________________________________________________</DIV>
<DIV>Dr. Bert de Groot</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry</DIV>
<DIV>Computational biomolecular dynamics group</DIV>
<DIV>Am Fassberg 11</DIV>
<DIV>37077 Goettingen, Germany</DIV>
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<DIV>tel: +49-551-2012308, fax: +49-551-2012302</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>email: <A href="mailto:bgroot@gwdg.de">bgroot@gwdg.de</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 8</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:30:57 +0200</DIV>
<DIV>From: Andrey V Golovin <<A href="mailto:golovin@genebee.msu.su">golovin@genebee.msu.su</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] multiple backups</DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Berk,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 2:09:41 PM, you wrote:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BH> Hi,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BH> I would like to know what the Gromacs users think of multiple backups.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BH> As of version 3.1.2 Gromacs makes multiple backups of files.</DIV>
<DIV>BH> If you use the same mdrun command four times</DIV>
<DIV>BH> in the same directory you would have for instance:</DIV>
<DIV>BH> #md.log.1#</DIV>
<DIV>BH> #md.log.2#</DIV>
<DIV>BH> #md.log.3#</DIV>
<DIV>BH> md.log</DIV>
<DIV>BH> Before version 3.1.2 Gromacs would make only one backup</DIV>
<DIV>BH> and you would lose all the older files:</DIV>
<DIV>BH> #md.log#</DIV>
<DIV>BH> md.log</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BH> I can see that this could be useful in that you never loose files,</DIV>
<DIV>BH> unless you type rm.</DIV>
<DIV>BH> But personally I find all these files quite annoying and I know</DIV>
<DIV>BH> of may people that think the same.</DIV>
<DIV>BH> When doing analysis or when trying to start a simulation which</DIV>
<DIV>BH> has some problems you often type the same command many</DIV>
<DIV>BH> times and the directory is quickly flooded with more than a hundred</DIV>
<DIV>BH> backup files. I have never used a backup file beyond the last backup.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>yes it's REALLY annoying. =)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>BH> So I propose to go back to the old system which has only</DIV>
<DIV>BH> a single backup for each file.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>may be could be better to set up some environment variable that</DIV>
<DIV>responsible for number of backups.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--</DIV>
<DIV>Best regards,</DIV>
<DIV> Andrey <A href="mailto:golovin@genebee.msu.su">mailto:golovin@genebee.msu.su</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Message: 9</DIV>
<DIV>Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:52:51 +0200</DIV>
<DIV>From: Anton Feenstra <<A href="mailto:feenstra@chem.vu.nl">feenstra@chem.vu.nl</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [gmx-users] multiple backups</DIV>
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<DIV>Berk Hess wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> So I propose to go back to the old system which has only</DIV>
<DIV>> a single backup for each file.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I simply have an alias 'clean' that does something like 'rm -f #*#' which</DIV>
<DIV>I type as soon as my dir becomes cluttered. I did that already with the</DIV>
<DIV>single backups, and still do it. For me it is fine as it is now with the</DIV>
<DIV>multiple backups - and occasionally I have even used the older backup files.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>--</DIV>
<DIV>Groetjes,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Anton</DIV>
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