<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul &lt;<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>

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    Rasoul wrote:<br>
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        For the sugar parameters you can use Glycam parameters<br>
         <a href="http://glycam.ccrc.uga.edu/documents/gl_params.jsp" target="_blank">http://glycam.ccrc.uga.edu/documents/gl_params.jsp</a><br>
        After with specific script it can be convert to Gromac readable<br>
        file:<br>
        <a href="http://www.gromacs.org/index.php?title=Download_%26_Installation/User_contributions/Other_software" target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/index.php?title=Download_%26_Installation/User_contributions/Other_software</a><br>

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    Mixing and matching force field parameters is a very bad idea.  To<br>
    have a valid<br>
    physical model, parameters should be derived in compatible ways.<br>
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It has good consistency with Amber FF :J Comput Chem 29: 622–655, 2008.<br>
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That&#39;s exactly what it was designed to do, which I don&#39;t question.  But the OP was attempting to develop united-atom parameters for use with Gromos96 53A6. For clarity, I pointed out that mixing GLYCAM and 53A6 is an incorrect notion.<br>

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</blockquote><div>Amber and Glycam FF can be imported to Gromacs and this method I think has a more lower artificiality. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
-Justin<br></blockquote><div><br> </div><div>Rasoul <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Rasoul<br>
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        I hope it would be useful for you.<br>
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        Rasoul<br>
        On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Justin A. Lemkul<br>
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           Jianhui Tian wrote:<br>
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               Hi Parichita,<br>
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               Thanks for the suggestion. However, the question is what<br>
               parameters from ffG53a6 can be used for not included<br>
        sugars or<br>
               glycolipid. I guess you can not simply use the charge,<br>
        angle and<br>
               dihedral values based on the atom types from 53a6.<br>
<br>
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           Gromos building blocks are quite transferable between different<br>
           molecules. Compare a few sugars - the parameters are nearly<br>
           identical.  That is one of the central features of this<br>
        particular<br>
           force field, that functional group charges should be as<br>
        versatile as<br>
           possible.<br>
<br>
           As for the lipids, there are new versions of 53A6 (which I<br>
        believe<br>
           have been uploaded to the Gromacs site) that perform<br>
        substantially<br>
           better than the built-in parameters.  The long acyl chains<br>
        are not<br>
           particularly accurate in the default 53A6.<br>
<br>
           -Justin<br>
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               Jianhui<br>
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               Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:18:49 +0530 (IST)<br>
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               Hi Jianhui,<br>
                For your sugar part you can use PRODRG, which will convert<br>
               coordinates for small molecules in PDB format (or simple text<br>
               structures) to the following topology formats: GROMOS,<br>
        GROMACS<br>
               and  from literature if you can find out the parameters of<br>
               ffG53a6 force field,  then you can correct the charge,<br>
        angle and<br>
               dihedral values that you are collected from the PRODRG. Hope<br>
               this will help you.<br>
               Regards...<br>
               Parichita...........<br>
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                        Parichita Mazumder Research Fellow<br>
               C/O Dr. Chaitali Mukhopadhayay<br>
               Department of Chemistry<br>
               University of Calcutta<br>
               92,A P C Road<br>
               Kolkata-700009<br>
               India.<br>
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               Date: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010, 10:16 AM<br>
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               Hi,<br>
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               I want to do some simulations about carbohydrates and<br>
               glycolipid. In the ffG53a6.rtp file, I just see limited<br>
               parameters for carbohydrate, like monosaccharide Glucose,<br>
               Mannose and Galactose. What parameters can be used for others<br>
               like arabinose? Also, is there any parameters available<br>
        in the<br>
               Gromacs force field for glycolipid?<br>
<br>
               Jianhui<br>
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