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    Agree! For most of the simulation of biological systems, EM with
    pressure coupling is<br>
    &nbsp;not really necessary. However, it's maybe useful in some
    studies,such as the simulation of<br>
    a peptide crystal. Anyway, thanks for the answer! Happy new year!<br>
    <br>
    Ting<br>
    <br>
    On 12/29/2010 7:31 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
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      MyLinkka wrote:
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      <blockquote type="cite">Hi Justin,
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        <br>
        Thanks for your answer!
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        As far as I understood, the virial expression of pressure has
        two parts,
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        the kinetic energy contribution and the potential energy
        contribution. Even when
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        temperature is undefined or zero, the product of pair force and
        distance between
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        atoms still contribute to the microscopic pressure tensor. In
        the EM algorithm,
        <br>
        if this pressure tensor is included in the target function to be
        minimized, it should
        <br>
        be able to optimize the box size as well as the atom positions,
        because the pressure
        <br>
        tensor is a functional of box size.
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        <br>
        However, it's good to know that Gromacs is not doing this task.
        Thanks!
        <br>
        <br>
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      I suppose, in theory, it's possible to use an EM algorithm to
      optimize a box. But for most systems, like a box filled with
      solvent, during EM the positions move very little and I'd be
      willing to bet the box wouldn't even change.&nbsp; I guess it depends
      on what you're looking to do, but for a system that hasn't even
      been equilibrated under the desired thermodynamic conditions (with
      a proper velocity distribution applied to the atoms), I don't see
      any real value in trying to obtain what you might consider an
      "optimized" box for a system that is not at equilibrium.&nbsp; The box
      stabilizes during NPT equilibration.
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      -Justin
      <br>
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      <blockquote type="cite">Ting Li
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        On 12/25/2010 3:41 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
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          MyLinkka wrote:
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          <blockquote type="cite">&nbsp; Yeah! Energy minimization with
            pressure coupling.
            <br>
            Is this possible?
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          No.&nbsp; There are no velocities in EM, and hence no kinetic
          energy, no virial, and thus no pressure coupling.
          <br>
          <br>
          -Justin
          <br>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">Ting
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            <br>
            <br>
            On 12/24/2010 5:04 AM, Terry wrote:
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            <blockquote type="cite">
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              On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Mark Abraham
              &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">&lt;mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au&gt;</a>&gt; wrote:
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              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On 24/12/2010 5:17 AM, MyLinkka wrote:
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              <blockquote type="cite">
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                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anybody know if it is possible to
                optimize the box
                <br>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; size during an energy minimization in Gromacs?
                <br>
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              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Optimize for what criterion?
              <br>
              <br>
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              <blockquote type="cite">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Can I make pressure coupling
                if it's possible?
                <br>
              </blockquote>
              <br>
              <br>
              Do you mean&nbsp; energy minimization with pressure coupling?
              <br>
              <br>
              Terry
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              <br>
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              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sure, that's in the manual and covered in tutorials.
              <br>
              <br>
              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mark
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is there a workaround if there
                is no direct way?
                <br>
                <br>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks!
                <br>
                <br>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ting
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