<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Hi,<br><br>"3000 water molecule per lipids per second" corresponds to 0.000384 water molecules transferred across the membrane per nano second (assume the system contains 128 lipids). It seems water translocation should not be observed in a simulation of 10 ns, but I am not sure. And I only find one reference paper(Biophysical Journal, Volume 96, 2009, pg4493–4501) about the water translocation across the membrane, in which a asymmetric membrane is used. <br><br>I also have similar observations for my protein-membrane system. I observed 10~15 times water translocation arosss the membrane during 100 ns simulation when my protein adsorbed on the membrane. I am wondering these water translocation is normal in all-atom simulations or they are due to the protein-induced membrane
deformation?<br><br>Any comment is highly appreciated, thank you!<br><br>best regards,<br>Jianguo<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Itamar Kass <itamar.kass@monash.edu><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 17 February 2011 07:20:19<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [gmx-users] Protein-membrane system<br></font><br>Dear Aldo,<br><br>It is totally OK to see water molecules within the bilayer, both in simulations and real life. If I am not totally wrong, 3000 water molecule per lipids per second are being transferred across the bilayer without any
protein involvement.<br><br>If your system is stable, the lipids density profile seems OK as well as its the thickness, you are fine.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Itamar.<br><br>On 17/02/11 5:48 AM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:<br>> <br>> Aldo Segura wrote:<br>>> Dear gmx-users,<br>>> <br>>> I completed a MD (10 ns) of my protein-membrane system. When I perform a visual inspection (VMD) of md_0_1.gro file I observed a few water molecules within the bilayer. In previous steps (e.g. equilibration) this was not observed. Could be expected such behavior?<br>> <br>> Membrane protein systems take a long time (tens of ns or maybe more) to equilibrate, so some water may drift in and out during the initial few ns as voids in the lipids open and close. Nothing to worry about, unless for some reason they persist out past the expected equilibration time.<br>> <br>> -Justin<br>> <br>>> <br>>> Best regards,<br>>>
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