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    Mark Abraham skrev 2011-03-24 06.52:
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      On 24/03/2011 4:38 PM, Swarnendu Tripathi wrote:
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        type="cite">Hi all,<br>
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        Thank you for the reply. The answer I got for the second
        question about table-extension, I understand and agree with
        that. <br>
        <br>
        Regarding my first question I asked, I did not get any error
        with grompp even when I tried rlist=rvdw=2.0 and rcoulomb=0. For
        this I used the no cut-off conditions which I have mentioned
        below in my previous e-mail. I am using Gromacs-4.0.7.&nbsp; Any
        further suggestions or comments will be very helpful.<br>
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      VDW interactions normally become insignificant much faster than
      Coulomb interactions, so treating all Coulomb interactions and
      only some VDW interactions is logical. However, performing the
      search for neighbours takes time, and given that you are computing
      the distances already for their Coulomb interaction, it is
      probably cheaper just to compute all the VDW interactions, i.e.
      rlist=rvdw=0. This might be different if you had a lot of atoms
      that had zero partial charge.<br>
      <br>
      Mark<br>
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    In addition, depending on your system, the collective long-range
    attraction from VdW interactions may not be insignificant. And since
    you're simulating in vacuo, I guess you have an inhomogeneous
    system, and dispersion corrdection may not be adequate. That's
    further reason to have infinite VdW cut-offs too. And, as mark
    mentioned, the distances are calculated anyway, so computing VdW
    will not add that much to your simulation time.<br>
    <br>
    Erik<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Mark
          Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div class="im">On 24/03/2011 1:34 PM, Itamar Kass wrote:<br>
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                padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi Swarnendu,<br>
                <br>
                grompp will return errer unless rlist=rcoulomb=rvdw=0,
                so you should stick to it.<br>
                <br>
                Cheers,<br>
                Itamar<br>
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                On 24/03/11 1:13 PM, Swarnendu Tripathi wrote:<br>
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                  padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello everybody,<br>
                  <br>
                  I want to use the no cut-off option in gromacs for the
                  electrostatic interactions. In manual it says for this
                  I need to define: pbc=no; nstlist=0; ns-type=simple
                  and rlist=rcoulomb=rvdw=0 in the .mdp file.<br>
                  <br>
                  My questions are:<br>
                  <br>
                  1. If I choose rcoulomb=0 and rlist=rvdw=2.0 is that a
                  problem? Do you always recommend to use
                  rlist=rcoulomb=rvdw=0 for no cut-off option?<br>
                  <br>
                  2. How &nbsp;should I choose the table-extension parameter
                  now? Before, with pbc=xyz (with cut-off) I used
                  table-extension=rvdw+1/2*length of the longest
                  diagonal of the box (approximately). I am also using a
                  tabulated potential.<br>
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            Since there is effectively no box once pbc=no, your tables
            need only be as long as the longest possible interaction,
            plus some margin for when the structure rearranges.<br>
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              Mark</font>
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