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    mohsen ramezanpour skrev 2011-04-06 09.31:
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Erik
        Marklund <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:erikm@xray.bmc.uu.se">erikm@xray.bmc.uu.se</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi,<br>
            <br>
            No we don't. You can't have fractions of elementary
            particles in your molecules.<br>
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        <div>Dear Erik<br>
          <br>
          Yes,You are right.It is obvious .<br>
          But I wanted to simulate a part of my system.for example a
          part of my protein!<br>
          I was wrong,we can't do that <br>
          &nbsp;<br>
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    I think there are several examples of that in literature, e.g. by
    &Aring;qvist and coworkers. But think they use a different approach than
    just cutting away part of the protein.<br>
    <br>
    Erik<br>
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          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Erik<br>
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            mohsen ramezanpour skrev 2011-04-06 09.13:
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                <blockquote type="cite">Daer Dr.Mark<br>
                  <br>
                  You are right,But all of them(as I know) have integer
                  charges!<br>
                  the problem is simullating a system with partial
                  charges.<br>
                  We absolutely have such systems.<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:22
                    AM, Mark Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au"
                        target="_blank">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        <div> On 6/04/2011 4:45 PM, mohsen ramezanpour
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                          <blockquote type="cite">Dear Dr.Justin<br>
                            <br>
                            What can we do (how can neutralize system)
                            if the total charge of our system was not
                            integer?<br>
                            I think&nbsp; there is not any solution and we
                            have to simulate a charged system not a
                            neutral.<br>
                            Am I right?<br>
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                        I suspect every tutorial for simulating proteins
                        in water deals with the need for counter-ions,
                        and the technique for generating them.<br>
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                          Mark</font>
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                            <br>
                            <blockquote type="cite"> Thanks in advance<br>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 6,
                                2011 at 11:12 AM, mohsen ramezanpour <span
                                  dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                wrote:<br>
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                                  padding-left: 1ex;">Dear Dr.Justin<br>
                                  <br>
                                  I had the same problem.<br>
                                  I modified the charges and charge
                                  groupsin the&nbsp; topology of a drug.the
                                  net charge of it is zero(I am sure)<br>
                                  though,when I used pdb2gmx it resulted
                                  a NOTE like the following:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  NOTE:The system has non-zero total
                                  charge: 3.000003e00<br>
                                  I continued simulation and ignored it!<br>
                                  Because:<br>
                                  1- I checked my protein.top and qtot
                                  was 3<br>
                                  2-the net charge of my drug was 0<br>
                                  3-Besides,all charges have 3 digit
                                  precision,How can it have 0.000003
                                  additional charge?!<br>
                                  <br>
                                  What is your point of view?<br>
                                  Thanks in advance for your reply
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed,
                                        Apr 6, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Justin
                                        A. Lemkul <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                            &#44608;&#54788;&#49885; wrote:<br>
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                                              &nbsp;&gt; Date: Tue, 5 Apr
                                              2011 23:43:19 +1000<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; From: <a
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                                                href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au"
                                                target="_blank">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a><br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; To: <a
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                                              &nbsp;&gt; Subject: Re:
                                              [gmx-users] How to remove
                                              charge of 5e-2 ??<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt;<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; On 5/04/2011 11:17
                                              PM, Hyunsik wrote:<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; &gt; Dear experts,<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; &gt; Hi,<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; &gt; When prepare a
                                              system, the system had
                                              +5.5. So I add 5 CL- ion
                                              to neutralize.<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; &gt;<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; &gt; But as you
                                              know, the Cl charge is -1
                                              and there still is 5e-2.
                                              how can i remove that.<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt;<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; Your statements are
                                              inconsistent. If you had
                                              5.5 charge and added five<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; chloride ions, you
                                              could not end up with
                                              0.05.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              &nbsp;oh.. I have mistaken.. I
                                              had 5.005 of the system
                                              charge.<br>
                                              &nbsp; So even if added five
                                              choride ions, the system
                                              charge is not zero. there
                                              was 0.005<br>
                                              <br>
                                              &nbsp;that is partial charge??
                                              &nbsp;If like that, topology is
                                              broken or something wrong?
                                              abnormal??<br>
                                              &nbsp;<br>
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                                          Maybe, maybe not. &nbsp;Rounding
                                          errors could account for this
                                          difference, especially if your
                                          system is very large. &nbsp;Still,
                                          you should inspect your
                                          topology/topologies for
                                          inconsistencies. &nbsp;If pdb2gmx
                                          created the topology, keep an
                                          eye on the "qtot" column for a
                                          running total of the charge.
                                          &nbsp;If you've made or adjusted
                                          any topologies on your own,
                                          double-check your work. &nbsp;If
                                          everything looks correct, then
                                          the difference is likely a
                                          consequence of floating-point
                                          math and nothing more.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          -Justin
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                                              &nbsp;Thank you,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              &nbsp;Hyun<br>
                                              <br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt;<br>
                                              &nbsp;&gt; Mark<br>
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Erik Marklund, PhD student
Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
Husargatan 3, Box 596,    75124 Uppsala, Sweden
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