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    On 12/04/2011 10:30 PM, Emine Deniz Tekin wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTikUoJsmXb+qqnkr3PnhHPDyR02H3w@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite"><br>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-US">Hi Mark,</span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-US"><br>
        </span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-US">Thank you
          for your reply. But, I couldn’t understand very well what you
          meant <span style="color: red;">“</span></span><span
          style="color: red;">you can make one that
          uses backbone-style linking. Most of the forcefields will have
          examples of
          non-amino-acid terminating residues - these make a single
          peptide bond just
          like yours does.</span><span style="color: red;" lang="EN-US">”.</span><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"> So, let me
          explain the problem a little more.<span style="">  </span>I
          would be happy if you could expound upon your reply. <br>
        </span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
        <span style="" lang="EN-US"></span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal">
      </p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;"><span style="" lang="EN-US"><span style=""><b>1)</b><span
              style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">     
            </span></span></span><span style="" lang="EN-US">I
          prepared the <b>rtp </b>entry for the lauroic acid (see
          below) and add the lipid
          parameters to the relevant sections of the <b style="">ffnonbonded.itp</b>
          and <b style="">ffbonded.itp</b> files.</span></p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    That is not an .rtp entry, see below. Look at some .rtp entries and
    see how they make backbone bonds. That is what I understand you want
    to do - make a peptide bond as if lauroic acid was an amino acid.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTikUoJsmXb+qqnkr3PnhHPDyR02H3w@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;">
      </p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;"><span style="" lang="EN-US"><span style=""><b>2)</b><span
              style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">     
            </span></span></span><span style="" lang="EN-US">I
          added the lauroic acid as a "Non-Protein” in the <b style="">residuetypes.dat<span
              style=""> </span></b>file and also
          I introduced the atom types (LO<span style="">: </span>15.9994,
          LC:<span style=""> </span>12.0110, LP2<span style="">: </span>14.0270,
          LP3<span style="">: </span>15.0350) in the <span style=""></span><b
            style="">atomtypes.atp.</b></span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;">
      </p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;"><b style=""><span style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">3)<span
                style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">      </span></span></span></b><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">I concatenated<span style=""> </span>the
          structure files of a 8-residue-peptide<b style=""> </b>and
          lauroic acid as <b style="">system.gro. </b></span><span
          style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; font-family:
          &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">Then,
          using “pdb2gmx -ter”, I obtained the <b>topol.top, conf.gro</b>
          and
          <b>posre.itp</b> for <b style="">the whole system.</b> </span><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">(I chose : start terminus VAL-2: NH2 and
          end terminus ASP-9: COO-) </span>
      </p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;"><span style="" lang="EN-US"></span><span style=""
          lang="EN-US"> <b>4)</b>   But
          when I looked into <b>conf.gro</b> with the VMD, I see that
          the peptide bond is formed
          between the </span></p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    No bond shown by VMD is relevant. It's guessing based on the
    coordinates in your .gro file. Your bonded atoms are in your .top
    file. VMD knows nothing about your .top file.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTikUoJsmXb+qqnkr3PnhHPDyR02H3w@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;"><span style="" lang="EN-US">lauroic acid (C34) and the N
          terminal of the Valine. However,
          second H of the N is still there and it is making another bond
          with C34 of
          lauroic acid. <span style=""></span>The strange thing is: C34
          is double bonded to O35,</span><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">Carbon makes four bonds. <br>
        </span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%;
          font-family: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"
          lang="EN-US">How can I get rid of that H?</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-indent:
        -18pt;">
      </p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">[ DPP ]</span></p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    This is not an .rtp entry. The [bonds] section must refer to atom
    names. I can only suppose pdb2gmx is warning about or ignoring
    everything after your [atoms] section.<br>
    <br>
    Look in the .rtp and chapter 5 of the manual how terminating
    pseudo-residues like ACE work. Do something analogous for lauroic
    acid.<br>
    <br>
    Mark<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:BANLkTikUoJsmXb+qqnkr3PnhHPDyR02H3w@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style=""> </span>[ atoms ]</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C34<span
            style="">      
          </span>LC<span style="">     </span>0.800<span style="">    </span>18</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>O35<span
            style="">      
          </span>LO<span style="">    </span>-0.60<span style="">     </span>18</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C36<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>19</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C37<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>20</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C38<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>21</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C39<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>22</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C40<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0 <span style="">      </span>23</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C41<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>24</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C42<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>25</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C43<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>26</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C44<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>27</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>C45<span
            style="">     
          </span>LP2<span style="">      </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>28</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">  
          </span>C46<span style="">      </span>LP3<span style="">     
          </span>0<span style="">      
          </span>29</span> </p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">[ bonds ]</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">;<span style="">  </span>ai<span
            style="">   
          </span>aj funct</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>34<span
            style="">     
          </span>35<span style="">       </span>1 0.12300E+00
          0.50210E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>34<span
            style="">     
          </span>36<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>36<span
            style="">     
          </span>37<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>37<span
            style="">     
          </span>38<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>38<span
            style="">     
          </span>39<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>39<span
            style="">     
          </span>40<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>40<span
            style="">     
          </span>41<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>41<span
            style="">     
          </span>42<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>42<span
            style="">     
          </span>43<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>43<span
            style="">     
          </span>44<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>44<span
            style="">     
          </span>45<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>45<span
            style="">     
          </span>46<span style="">       </span>1 0.15300E+00
          0.33470E+06</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">[ angles ]</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">;<span style="">  </span>ai<span
            style="">   
          </span>aj<span style="">    </span>ak funct</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>34<span
            style="">     
          </span>36<span style="">      </span>37<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>35<span
            style="">     
          </span>34<span style="">      </span>36<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.12100E+03 0.50210E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>36<span
            style="">     
          </span>37<span style="">      </span>38<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>37<span
            style="">     
          </span>38<span style="">      </span>39<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>38<span
            style="">     
          </span>39<span style="">      </span>40<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>39<span
            style="">     
          </span>40<span style="">      </span>41<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>40<span
            style="">     
          </span>41<span style="">      </span>42<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>41<span
            style="">     
          </span>42<span style="">      </span>43<span style="">    </span><span
            style="">   </span>1
          0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>42<span
            style="">     
          </span>43<span style="">      </span>44<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>43<span
            style="">     
          </span>44<span style="">      </span>45<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">      </span>44<span
            style="">     
          </span>45<span style="">      </span>46<span style="">      
          </span>1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">[ dihedrals ]</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">;<span style="">  </span>ai<span
            style="">   
          </span>aj<span style="">    </span>ak<span style="">    </span>al
          funct<span style="">  
          </span>phi0<span style="">     </span>cp<span style="">     </span>mult</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>34<span
            style="">   
          </span>36<span style="">    </span>37<span style="">    </span>38<span
            style="">    
          </span>1<span style="">    </span>0.0<span style="">     </span>5.86<span
            style="">   
          </span>3</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>36<span
            style="">   
          </span>37<span style="">    </span>38<span style="">    </span>39<span
            style="">    
          </span>3</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>37<span
            style="">   
          </span>38<span style="">    </span>39<span style="">    </span>40<span
            style="">    
          </span>3</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>38<span
            style="">   
          </span>39<span style="">    </span>40<span style="">    </span>41<span
            style="">    
          </span>3</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>39<span
            style="">   
          </span>40<span style="">    </span>41<span style="">    </span>42<span
            style="">    
          </span>3</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>40<span
            style="">   
          </span>41<span style="">    </span>42<span style="">    </span>43<span
            style="">    
          </span>3</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>41<span
            style="">   
          </span>42<span style="">    </span>43<span style="">    </span>44<span
            style="">    
          </span>3</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">   </span>42<span
            style="">   
          </span>43<span style="">  </span><span style="">  </span>44<span
            style="">   
          </span>45<span style="">     </span>3</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US"><span style="">  
          </span>43<span style="">    </span>44<span style="">    </span>45<span
            style="">   
          </span>46<span style="">     </span>3</span></p>
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      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span></p>
      <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span
          style="" lang="EN-US">Deniz<br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Mark
        Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div class="im">On 8/04/2011 11:25 PM, Emine Deniz Tekin
            wrote:<br>
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              <br>
              Hi Gromacs users,<br>
              <br>
              I want to covalently link the lauroic acid to the Valine
              residue (it is a peptide (amide) bond), I know that I
              should update the specbond.dat.But before updating this
              file, I need the NH as an N terminal of the first residue
              (Valine).When I used pdb2gmx with the –ter flag, I got
              either NH3, NH2 or None instead of NH.So, I add the [NH]
              directive in the aminoacids.n.rtp file, as follows;<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              [ NH ]<br>
              <br>
              [ replace ]<br>
              <br>
              ; old-namenew-typenew-massnew-charge<br>
              <br>
              NLN14.0067-0.31<br>
              <br>
              CACH113.0190.127<br>
              <br>
              [ add ]<br>
              <br>
              12HNCAC<br>
              <br>
              ;atom_typemasscharge<br>
              <br>
              H1.0080.31<br>
              <br>
              [ delete ]<br>
              <br>
              H<br>
              <br>
              [ bonds ]<br>
              <br>
              NHgb_2<br>
              <br>
              [ angles ]<br>
              <br>
              CANHga_11<br>
              <br>
              [ dihedrals ]<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            HNCACgd_29
            <div class="im"><br>
              <br>
              <br>
              (ps. I wrote the charges of N, CA and H according to
              values defined in topol.top and also I used the Gromos96
              53a6 force field)<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Then, I used the pdb2gmx with –ter, I could see:<br>
              <br>
              Select start terminus type for VAL<br>
              <br>
              0: NH<br>
              <br>
              1: NH3+<br>
              <br>
              2: NH2<br>
              <br>
              3: None<br>
              <br>
              <br>
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            Finally, I got thetopol.top, posre itp and conf.gro files.
            But when I looked into conf.gro, I see that I am getting
            “None”. How can I get the NH ?<br>
            <br>
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          <br>
          Coordinating multiple "moving parts" like the specbond and
          terminus-fixing is probably a recipe for trouble.<br>
          <br>
          Since you have to make an .rtp entry for lauroic acid anyway,
          you can make one that uses backbone-style linking. Most of the
          forcefields will have examples of non-amino-acid terminating
          residues - these make a single peptide bond just like yours
          does. Now you can ignore the specbond and terminus-fixing
          mechanisms entirely.<br>
          <br>
          Mark<br>
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