Ok Thanks.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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Kavyashree M wrote:<br>
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The original paper (J. Chern. Phys., Vol. 79, No.2, 15 July 1983)<br>
stated a density of 0.999g/cc at 298K and 1atm, which is nowhere<br>
close to the value i have got. (1.025g/cc). or is this value tolerable?<br>
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That&#39;s a 2.6% difference.  I wouldn&#39;t call that &quot;nowhere close.&quot;  Unless you are literally reproducing the exact same system used during parameterization (which you&#39;re not, based on your system contents and the use of algorithms like PME that didn&#39;t exist in 1983) then you shouldn&#39;t necessarily expect identical results.<br>

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-Justin<br>
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul &lt;<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>

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    Kavyashree M wrote:<br>
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        I am sorry I did not include it in the mail: i used the following:<br>
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        pcoupl                  = Parrinello_Rahman    pcoupltype                     = isotropic            tau_p                   = 2.0                         compressibility         = 4.5e-5        ref_p                          = 1.0                          I agree that density of water is different  depending on the<br>

        model used,<br>
        so for tip4p water what is the range of fluctuations accepted?<br>
        So that<br>
        we can conclude that the difference is not due to any other<br>
        reason but<br>
        the water model used.<br>
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    The extent of fluctuation in any pressure-related term depends on<br>
    the size of your system and several of the .mdp settings.<br>
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    <a href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure" target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure</a><br>
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    For the actual target value of TIP4P density, refer to the<br>
    literature.  The TIP4P citation is provided in the Gromacs manual.<br>
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    -Justin<br>
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        Thanking you<br>
        With regards<br>
        Kavya<br>
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        On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul<br>
        &lt;<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;<br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
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           Kavyashree M wrote:<br>
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               Dear gromacs users,<br>
                I am trying to simulate a 225aa protein at 300K in water,<br>
               with OPLSAA force filed, tip4p water model, using the<br>
               parameters below (for pressure equilibration) during<br>
<br>
<br>
           You&#39;re not doing NPT.  You haven&#39;t specified pcoupl or any of the<br>
           other relevant parameters, so you&#39;re doing NVT.<br>
<br>
<br>
               position restrained md.<br>
<br>
               integrator              = md                  dt                                    = 0.002                nsteps                         = 50000                  nstcomm                 = 10                      nstlist                        = 5                         ns_type                 = grid                  pbc                            = xyz             rlist                          = 1.40<br>

               coulombtype             = PME  rcoulomb                =<br>
        1.40            vdwtype                 = Switch                  rvdw_switch                    = 0.9              rvdw                           = 1.00                        fourierspacing          =<br>
        0.12              pme_order                      = 4                         ewald_rtol              = 1e-5                             optimize_fft            = yes Tcoupl                         =<br>
        nose-hoover       tc_grps                 = Protein  Non-Protein<br>
               tau_t                   = 0.4      0.4         ref_t                                 = 300      300        nh-chain-length                = 1            gen_vel                 = no     continuation                   = yes          constraints             = all-bonds<br>

               constraint-algorithm    = LINCS<br>
               lincs-order             = 4            lincs-iter                     =<br>
               1               lincs-warnangle         = 30<br>
               when I calculate the densities, the average came out to be<br>
               1025.91 kg/m^3,<br>
               Could anyone please clarify me the reason for this density.<br>
<br>
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           Simulating with the right ensemble (NPT) will equilibrate the<br>
           pressure and thus density.  As a fundamental point, please also<br>
           realize that each water model has its own (different) expected<br>
           density value, which is also influenced somewhat by the remaining<br>
           contents of the system.  Therefore, the result you obtain may<br>
        not be<br>
           in exact agreement with experimental bulk density of water.<br>
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           -Justin<br>
<br>
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               Thanking you<br>
               With regards<br>
               Kavya<br>
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