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    On 4/07/2011 11:49 PM, Emine Deniz Tekin wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAG7W+One1ppCdt0QKFiAfb4Cd_cEmT+ARFD00Tg0SLVC1Gef-A@mail.gmail.com"
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      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><span style="line-height:
            115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Hi Mark,</span></font></p>
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      </font>
      <p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><span style="line-height:
            115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Thank you for your reply.</span></font></p>
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      </font>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height:
        normal;"><font size="4"><span style="font-family: &quot;Times
            New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Let me
            explain the problem a little more and answer your questions.
            I would be happy
            if you could expound upon your reply.</span></font></p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Sorry, I can't.<br>
    <br>
    * I won't try to make sense of five different font styles and a
    forest of differential indentation.<br>
    * You didn't say whether you tested the single lipopeptide topology
    like I suggested. Solve simple problems completely before tackling
    complex problems.<br>
    * I pointed out that showing us only the coordinate file was not an
    effective way of diagnosing a mismatch of topology database and
    coordinate file naming, and you still haven't supplied any topology
    information.<br>
    * The *geometry* of the lipopetides is often irrelevant for trying
    to get pdb2gmx to construct a *topology*<br>
    <br>
    Mark<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAG7W+One1ppCdt0QKFiAfb4Cd_cEmT+ARFD00Tg0SLVC1Gef-A@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <pre><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span style="color: black;"></span></span>      <font size="2">Hi Gromacs users,</font></pre>
      <font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family:
          &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"></span></font>
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              <blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><span
                    style="line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times
                    New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">I created a
                    lipopeptide (lauroic acid <span> </span>connected
                    to an 8-residue peptide which starts with Valine).</span>
                </font></blockquote>
              <font size="2">    <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">How
                  is the link from acid to peptide created?</span></font></div>
            <div class="im"><br>
              <font size="4"><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New
                  Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;">The link
                  between acid and peptide is a “peptide bond”. </span></font>
              <pre><font size="4"><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;">(<span>I prepared the *rtp *entry for the lauroic acid make a peptide bond as if lauroic acid was an amino acid (following your suggestion)).</span></span></font></pre>
              <br>
              <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span
                  style=""><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New
                    Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><font size="4"><span
                  style="font-family: &quot;Times New
                  Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">If I try to
                  use “pdb2gmx” for ONE LİPOPEPTİDE (9 residues), that
                  is</span>
              </font>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                line-height: normal;"><font size="4"><span
                    style="font-family: &quot;Times New
                    Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>         </span>pdb2gmx
                    –f one_lipopeptide.pdb
                    -ter </span></font></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: &quot;Times New
                  Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"></span><font size="4">It
                  seems to work. That is,
                  topol.top is created. (And also this <span
                    style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">topology works <span> </span>for
                    MD.</span>)</font></p>
              <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New
                Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span style="color:
                  red;"></span></span>
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                line-height: normal;">
              </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
                line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;
                  font-family: &quot;Times New
                  Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"> </span></p>
            </div>
            <font size="2"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Does
                that topology work for MD? Why does pdb2gmx think
                there's 9 residues, and below there seem to be 63?</span></font></div>
        </blockquote>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-bottom:
            0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"><span
              style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span
                style="">·<span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New
                  Roman&quot;;">                  </span></span></span><font
              size="4"><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New
                Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">But, if I
                try to use “pdb2gmx” for SEVEN LİPOPEPTİDE at desired
                positions (63 residues),
                that is</span></font></p>
          <font size="4">
          </font>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
            line-height: normal;"><font size="4"><span
                style="font-family: &quot;Times New
                Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>            </span>pdb2gmx
                –f seven_lipopeptide.pdb
                -ter </span></font></p>
          <font size="4">
          </font>
          <span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%; font-family:
            &quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span
              style="">     </span><font size="4">It gives the fatal
              error: <span style="color: black;">“<span>Atom N not
                  found in residue </span></span></font></span><font
            size="4"><span style="line-height: 115%; font-family:
              &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;"><a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://seq.nr/"
                target="_blank"><span style="line-height: 115%;
                  font-family: &quot;Times New
                  Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;">seq.nr</span></a></span><span
              style="line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;">. 1 while
              adding improper”</span></font> </div>
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              <blockquote type="cite">
                <p class="MsoNormal">
                  <span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;
                    font-family: Symbol;"><span><span style="font: 7pt
                        &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"></span></span></span><font
                    size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%;
                      font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">While I was
                      creating the lipopeptide, I introduced the lauroic
                      acid as a pseudo amino acid (following Mark’s
                      suggestion). So, I really do NOT have atom N in
                      the first residue. I pasted a part of my gro file
                      below.</span></font></p>
              </blockquote>
            </div>
            <font size="2"> </font><font size="1"><font style="color:
                rgb(255, 0, 0);" size="2">Some improper in your topology
                database entries wants a N atom that doesn't exist.
                Unfortunately, we don't have anywhere near enough
                information to guess why. pdb2gmx is trying to match
                your .rtp and specbond entries to your .gro file, but
                only seeing the latter can't help diagnose a mismatch.
                Some description of "desired positions" is also
                important.</font><br>
            </font></div>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
            line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;
              font-family: &quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;">    <font
                size="4">I wrote <span> </span>a code to put 7
                identical lipopeptides at
                desired positions. That is, 7 lipopeptides are placed on
                a plane with 15 degree
                angle between the adjacent lipopeptides.</font></span><span
              style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: black;"></span></p>
           
          <br>
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            <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Also, giving full
              command lines are always preferred. You may not think
              anything significant is there, and you might be right, but
              if there *can* be something significant there, and we
              aren't given the chance to know whether it is present, we
              might just not bother to waste time guessing :)</span><br
              style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">
          </div>
        </blockquote>
        <div><br>
          <font size="4">I used gromos53a6 force field (extended to </font><font
            size="4"><font face="Arial">include</font> lauroic acid
            parameters) &amp; spc type water <br>
            <br>
          </font></div>
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><font color="#888888"><font
                size="4"> </font><br>
            </font></div>
        </blockquote>
        <div> 
          <font size="4"><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">And
              also, I have a question: The first residue in my pdb file
              is lauroic acid that is DPP, second residue is Valine and
              so on.. But when I used the
              pdb2gmx with –ter it says: Start terminus VAL-2: None, End
              terminus ASP-9:
              COO-) Would not DPP residue be the start terminus?<br>
              <br>
            </span></font><font size="4">Best regards,</font></div>
        <div><font color="#888888"><br>
            Mark</font> <br>
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              <div class="h5"> Deniz<br>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                    <span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 115%;
                      font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">GROMACS molecule
                      input test</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">574</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CA<span>    </span>1<span>  </span>11.027<span>  
                      </span>5.295<span>   </span>3.153</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CB<span>    </span>2<span>  </span>10.894<span>  
                      </span>5.299<span>   </span>3.078</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CG<span>    </span>3<span>  </span>10.777<span>  
                      </span>5.234<span>   </span>3.153</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CD<span>    </span>4<span>  </span>10.645<span>  
                      </span>5.254<span>   </span>3.078</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CE<span>    </span>5<span>  </span>10.521<span>  
                      </span>5.203<span>   </span>3.153</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CZ<span>    </span>6<span>  </span>10.392<span>  
                      </span>5.251<span>   </span>3.086</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CM<span>    </span>7<span>  </span>10.266<span>  
                      </span>5.207<span>   </span>3.161</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CN<span>    </span>8<span>  </span>10.140<span>  
                      </span>5.272<span>   </span>3.103</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CO<span>    </span>9<span>  </span>10.014<span>  
                      </span>5.221<span>   </span>3.172</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CP<span>   </span>10<span>   </span>9.885<span>  
                      </span>5.279<span>   </span>3.112</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>    
                      </span>CQ<span>   </span>11<span>   </span>9.761<span>  
                      </span>5.203<span>   </span>3.160</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span> </span><span>  
                      </span>1DPP<span>      </span>C<span>   </span>12<span> 
                      </span>11.101<span>   </span>5.430<span>   </span>3.147</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>1DPP<span>     
                      </span>O<span>   </span>13<span>  </span>11.032<span>  
                      </span>5.531<span>   </span>3.136</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>2VAL<span>     
                      </span>N<span>   </span>14<span>  </span>11.235<span>  
                      </span>5.450<span>   </span>3.160</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>2VAL<span>     
                      </span>H<span>   </span>15<span>  </span>11.249<span>  
                      </span>5.550<span>   </span>3.159</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>2VAL<span>    
                      </span>CA<span>   </span>16<span>  </span>11.368<span>  
                      </span>5.385<span>   </span>3.181</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>2VAL<span>    
                      </span>CB<span>   </span>17<span>  </span>11.390<span>  
                      </span>5.233<span>   </span>3.181</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>2VAL<span>   
                      </span>CG1<span>   </span>18<span>  </span>11.332<span>  
                      </span>5.172<span>   </span>3.308</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>2VAL<span>   
                      </span>CG2<span>   </span>19<span>  </span>11.338<span>  
                      </span>5.161<span>   </span>3.056</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>2VAL<span>     
                      </span>C<span>   </span>20<span>  </span>11.486<span>  
                      </span>5.449<span>   </span>3.103</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>2VAL<span>     
                      </span>O<span>   </span>21<span>  </span>11.498<span>  
                      </span>5.436<span>   </span>2.982</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>    </span>…………..</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>   </span>63ASP<span>   
                      </span>OD1<span>  </span>570<span>  </span>-0.306<span> 
                      </span>14.874<span>   </span>3.343</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>   </span>63ASP<span>   
                      </span>OD2<span>  </span>571<span>  </span>-0.451<span> 
                      </span>15.030<span>   </span>3.289</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>   </span>63ASP<span>     
                      </span>C<span>  </span>572<span>  </span>-0.057<span> 
                      </span>15.023<span>   </span>3.106</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>   </span>63ASP<span>    
                      </span>O1<span>  </span>573<span>   </span>0.014<span> 
                      </span>15.003<span>   </span>3.207</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>   </span>63ASP<span>    
                      </span>O2<span>  </span>574<span>  </span>-0.029<span> 
                      </span>15.104<span>   </span>3.017</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt;
                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"><span>  </span>16.23937<span>  
                      </span>16.23937<span>   </span>16.23937</span></p>
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                      line-height: 115%; font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">I am using Gromacs
                      53a6 force field and gromacs 4.5.3 version.</span></p>
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                    line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;
                      font-family: &quot;Times New
                      Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Any help will be
                      appreciated.</span></p>
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                      New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">Thanks in
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