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<div style="font-family:times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div>OKK, But, before, I have tried using md as integrator where I start the initial velocity as 280K ( which makes sense as the minimized configuration is essentially at low temperature) and have used Nose-hoover at 300K and I never had problem in getting the desired 300K after running a short NVT simulation as equilabration.</div><div>The problem arises when sd integrator is used.</div><div>In fact, I &nbsp;just tried to generate the initial velocity at 300K along with sd integrator. I got the 303 K as average temperature again. The same simulation using md integrator always gives rise to 300K as average temperature( when used in conjunction with Nose-Hoover ) , even if I generate velocity at 280 K or 300K .</div><div><br></div><div>I guess that the initial velocity-generation temperature should not be an issue here. The sd integrator in contrast to md integrator may be the
 problem.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Justin A. Lemkul &lt;jalemkul@vt.edu&gt;<br><b><span style="
font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Discussion list for GROMACS users &lt;gmx-users@gromacs.org&gt;<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, August 2, 2011 8:40:21 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [gmx-users] Problem with temperature and stochastic dynamics in FEP<br></font><br>
<br><br>Sanku M wrote:<br>&gt; Hi Justin,<br>&gt;&nbsp;  So, do you suggest that after minimization, I should generate the velocity at 300K instead ?<br>&gt; i.,e for equilibration,should following the set-up?<br>&gt; <br><br>You should always equilibrate under the desired conditions.&nbsp; Never make sudden changes, or else you're going to damage the stability of the system.<br><br>-Justin<br><br>&gt; gen-vel&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = yes<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; gen-temp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 300<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; gen-seed&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = -1<br>&gt; <br>&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>&gt; *From:* Justin A. Lemkul &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;<br>&gt; *To:* Discussion list for GROMACS users
 &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org">gmx-users@gromacs.org</a>&gt;<br>&gt; *Sent:* Tue, August 2, 2011 8:26:16 PM<br>&gt; *Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] Problem with temperature and stochastic dynamics in FEP<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Justin A. Lemkul wrote:<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Sanku M wrote:<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; Hi Justin,<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&nbsp; I first performed two minimization using steep and l-bfgs as the method on the solvated system for each lambda. Then I ran a 500ps NVT simulation on minimized system ( for each lambda) where essentially same .mdp file was used except the following change:<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; gen-vel&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = yes<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&nbsp; gen-temp&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 280<br>&gt;&nbsp;
 &gt;&gt;&nbsp; gen-seed&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = -1<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; So, essentially, I heated the minimized system up from 280 K with ref_t 300K using sd integrator. But, here also I found the average temperature goes to 303 K( instead of 300 K) .<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Unless you did simulated annealing in between, you didn't heat the system, you suddenly jolted the temperature, which is probably not stable.&nbsp; Maybe the integrator/Langevin thermostat does not react well to these conditions. Equilibrate under the conditions you wish to collect data.&nbsp; Your data collection uses NPT, so running NVT at a different temperature and suddenly changing the temperature and introducing pressure coupling is not an appropriate procedure. If nothing else, your data will be unreliable, even if your temperature was correct.<br>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Sorry, misread the previous .mdp settings.&nbsp; You're still using
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