Hi.<br><br>I'm another one waiting for the OpenCL version here.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
4.6 will support only CUDA.<br>
<br>
OpenCL GPU implementations have yet match CUDA; on CPU it would hardly<br>
match the performance of the hand-tuned SSE kernels, moreover, CPU &<br>
GPU algorithms are not the same.<br></blockquote><div><br>If you allow me, the (second and third!) argument is not strong enough, since also cuda for cpu would not match the performance of all tricks from gromacs. Also, I think that the cpu and cuda algorithms are not the same. From my point of view, the only really strong argument would be the first one: "OpenCL GPU implementations have yet match CUDA!", despite the fact that I would like to see it better explained if possible (even a link would be suffice).<br>
<br>More important: does this mean that openMM and gromacs gpu development are "breaking apart"? What can we really expect from that, other than easier installation and usage?<br><br>Thanks a lot!<br><br>Sincerely yours,<br>
<br>Jones<br><br>Â </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Alexey Shvetsov<br>
<<a href="mailto:alexxy@omrb.pnpi.spb.ru">alexxy@omrb.pnpi.spb.ru</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi!<br>
><br>
> Will it use CUDA or OpenCL? Second one will be more common since it will<br>
> work with wider range of platfroms (cpu, gpu, fcpga)<br>
><br>
> Szilárd Páll пиÑал 27.11.2011 23:50:<br>
>><br>
>> Native acceleration = not relying on external libraries. ;)<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Szilárd<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Peter C. Lai <<a href="mailto:pcl@uab.edu">pcl@uab.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Random hijack:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Will the CUDA acceleration support CMAP or will it still be limited to<br>
>>> the limitations of OpenMM that it currently has?<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2011-11-27 12:10:47PM -0600, Szilárd Páll wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi Andrzej,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> GROMACS 4.6 is work in progress, it will have native CUDA acceleration<br>
>>>> with multi-GPU support along a few other improvements. You can expect<br>
>>>> a speedup in the ballpark of 3x. We will soon have the code available<br>
>>>> for testing.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm a little skeptical about the 5x of ACEMD. What setting did you<br>
>>>> use? AFAIR they were using large time-steps without contraints in<br>
>>>> their benchmarks.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Szilárd<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Andrzej Rzepiela<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:Andrzej.Rzepiela@physik.uni-freiburg.de">Andrzej.Rzepiela@physik.uni-freiburg.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> > Dears,<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > I would like to ask what performance improvement is expected for<br>
>>>> > future<br>
>>>> > releases (e.g. 4.6) for PME calculations on gpu cards. Last week I<br>
>>>> > sent<br>
>>>> > benchmark results for dhfr to the list, which show no performance gain<br>
>>>> > when<br>
>>>> > the newest versions of tesla cards vs intel xeon R are used (more or<br>
>>>> > less in<br>
>>>> > agreement of what is presented on the gromacs website). However, for<br>
>>>> > the<br>
>>>> > same system  simulations with different gpu code, acemd,  on a very<br>
>>>> > similar<br>
>>>> > machine can be about 5 times faster, as benchmarked recently by my<br>
>>>> > colleagues, suggesting that performance of gromacs may soon improve.<br>
>>>> > is that<br>
>>>> > correct ?<br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> ><br>
>>>> > Andrzej<br>
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