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    On 11/01/2012 11:09 PM, Ester Chiessi wrote:
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks Mark.</font></div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Are&nbsp;the results obtained from the
          ( well behaving ) simulations on A and B platforms reliable ?</font></div>
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    Only after they have equilibrated, and on the evidence of the system
    blowing up on C, they didn't start very close to equilibrium.<br>
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    Mark<br>
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Ester</font></div>
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            title="Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au"
            href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark Abraham</a> </div>
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        <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January
          11, 2012 12:27 PM</div>
        <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gmx-users]
          platform dependent fate of a md simulation</div>
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        On 11/01/2012 9:18 PM, Ester Chiessi wrote:
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          <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi,</font></div>
          <div>&nbsp;</div>
          <div><font face="Arial" size="2">running a md simulation with
              the same tpr file ( using Gromacs 4.5.3 ) on three
              different platforms ( A:&nbsp;<font face="Times New Roman"
                size="3"> </font><font color="#000000" face="Times New
                Roman" size="3"><em>HP xw8600 Workstation; B: PC&nbsp;with </em><font
                  face="Liberation Serif, serif"><font size="3"><font
                      color="#000000"><em>Intel CORE 2 DUO processor; C:
                      </em>IBM Power6 cluster ), I obtained the
                      following results:</font></font></font></font></font></div>
          <div>&nbsp;</div>
          <div>on A and B platforms the run is fine,</div>
          <div>on C the run crashes at the first step, returning LINCS
            errors.</div>
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          <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Did anyone&nbsp;observe this
              behaviour? What does it mean?</font></div>
          <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I wonder if my system is
              really wrong or not.</font></div>
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              <div>&nbsp;</div>
              <div>I noted this difference in the corresponding md.log
                files:</div>
              <div>Platform A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span lang="IT">RMS relative
                  constraint deviation after constraining: 3.56e-06</span></div>
              <div>Platform B&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span lang="IT">RMS relative
                  constraint deviation after constraining: 3.48e-06</span></div>
              <div>Platform C&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span lang="IT">RMS relative
                  constraint deviation after constraining: 3.58e-06</span></div>
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          <div>&nbsp;</div>
          <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Really many thanks for any
              comment.</font></div>
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        See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Reproducibility">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Reproducibility</a>
        for general discussion. Probably A and B are getting lucky with
        the numerical integration of a poorly conditioned system, and C
        is not.&nbsp; For advice on fixing the problem, see <a
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          href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up</a><br>
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        Mark<br>
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