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Ren&eacute; Pool

Division of Molecular and Computational Toxicology
Department of Chemistry and Pharmaceutical Sciences
Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
De Boelelaan 1083
1081HV AMSTERDAM, the Netherlands
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Department of Computer Science
Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
De Boelelaan 1081a
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Room P 2.75
E: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:r.pool@vu.nl">r.pool@vu.nl</a>
T: +31 20 598 76 12
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    <br>
    On 01/24/2012 09:30 AM, Pool, R. wrote:
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      <div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color:
        #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Hi Gianluca,<br>
        <br>
        You might want to take a look at GromPy
        (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/GromPy/GromPy">https://github.com/GromPy/GromPy</a>).<br>
        This is a python interface to the GROMACS library. Amongst other
        applications, there is an option to perform grand-canonical
        Monte Carlo using GromPy. The necessary energy evaluations are
        performed using direct library calls to GROMACS. In this way it
        is possible to get around the possibly prohibitive file I/O in
        shell implementations that use the GROMACS executables. A paper
        on GromPy and GromPy/GCMC has recently been accepted in JCC, so
        more details will follow. In the meantime you can have a look at
        the code and the tutorial on the above website.<br>
        <br>
        Good luck!<br>
        <br>
        Cheers,<br>
        Rene
        <div><br>
          <div style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13px;"><span
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              Ren&eacute; Pool<br>
              <br>
              Division of Molecular and Computational Toxicology<br>
              Department of Chemistry and Pharmaceutical Sciences<br>
              Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam<br>
              De Boelelaan 1083<br>
              1081HV AMSTERDAM, the Netherlands<br>
              -----<br>
              IBIVU/Bioinformatics<br>
              Department of Computer Science<br>
              Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam<br>
              De Boelelaan 1081a<br>
              1081HV AMSTERDAM, the Netherlands<br>
              <br>
              Room P 2.75<br>
              E: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:r.pool@vu.nl">r.pool@vu.nl</a><br>
              T: +31 20 598 76 12<br>
              F: +31 20 598 76 10<br>
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          <div style="direction: ltr;" id="divRpF263923"><font
              color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gmx-users-bounces@gromacs.org">gmx-users-bounces@gromacs.org</a>
              [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gmx-users-bounces@gromacs.org">gmx-users-bounces@gromacs.org</a>] on behalf of Rodrigo
              Faccioli [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rodrigo_faccioli@uol.com.br">rodrigo_faccioli@uol.com.br</a>]<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 24 January 2012 05:29<br>
              <b>To:</b> Discussion list for GROMACS users<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gmx-users] Monte Carlo with Gromacs
              and implicit solvent<br>
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          <div>Hi Gianluca,<br>
            <br>
            I forgot to say that the step of compute the energies is
            considered from pdb2gmx until g_energy.<br>
            <br>
            Sorry about my oblivion.<br>
            <br>
            Best regards,<br>
            <br>
            --<br>
            Rodrigo Antonio Faccioli<br>
            Ph.D Student in Electrical Engineering<br>
            University of Sao Paulo - USP<br>
            Engineering School of Sao Carlos - EESC<br>
            Department of Electrical Engineering - SEL<br>
            Intelligent System in Structure Bioinformatics<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br" target="_blank">http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br</a><br>
            Phone: 55 (16) 3373-9366 Ext 229<br>
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            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:07 AM,
              Rodrigo Faccioli <span dir="ltr">
                &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:rodrigo_faccioli@uol.com.br"
                  target="_blank">rodrigo_faccioli@uol.com.br</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
                0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
                padding-left: 1ex;">
                Hi Gianluca,<br>
                <br>
                Thanks your question.<br>
                <br>
                All steps to obtain a generation with 200 individuals,
                on average, is 6 minutes for 1VII, example. In each
                generation I must&nbsp; converted my proteins Dihedral to
                Cartesian representation, compute the energies, choose
                the individuals which will go to reproduction, save
                previous population. This test was using one core of a
                conventional Desktop computer.<br>
                <br>
                The proteins, that I have tested my algorithm<span
                  lang="en"><span></span></span>,
                <span lang="en"><span>vary </span><span>from 20 to 56</span>
                  <span>amino</span> <span>
                    acids</span></span>. <br>
                <div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
                  Best regards,<br>
                  <br clear="all">
                  --<br>
                  Rodrigo Antonio Faccioli<br>
                  Ph.D Student in Electrical Engineering<br>
                  University of Sao Paulo - USP<br>
                  Engineering School of Sao Carlos - EESC<br>
                  Department of Electrical Engineering - SEL<br>
                  Intelligent System in Structure Bioinformatics<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br" target="_blank">http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br</a><br>
                  Phone: 55 (16) 3373-9366 Ext 229<br>
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                  <div class="h5">
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at
                      12:36 AM, Gianluca Interlandi <span dir="ltr">
                        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gianluca@u.washington.edu"
                          target="_blank">gianluca@u.washington.edu</a>&gt;</span>
                      wrote:<br>
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt
                        0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
                        204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
                        Thanks Enrico!<br>
                        <br>
                        Just wondering. How fast is it? Calling gromacs
                        must have a lot of overhead. Also, do you call
                        mdrun or does g_energy evaluate the energy?<span><font
                            color="#888888"><br>
                            <br>
                            Gianluca</font></span>
                        <div>
                          <div><br>
                            <br>
                            On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Rodrigo Faccioli wrote:<br>
                            <br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;
                              border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
                              padding-left: 1ex;">
                              Hi,<br>
                              <br>
                              Although I don't work with MC simulation,
                              I have used Gromacs to obtain energies and
                              others<br>
                              protein features in my Evolutionary
                              Algorithms (EA).<br>
                              <br>
                              In general lines, I created a script that
                              calls Gromacs programs and the output of
                              these<br>
                              programs, such as g_energy (I read its xvg
                              file), I stored it at a specific file
                              which is<br>
                              read by my algorithm and its values are
                              put into my data structure. I call Gromacs
                              either<br>
                              implicit or explicit solvent.&nbsp;<br>
                              <br>
                              My project is working with EA until now.
                              However, the integration with GROMACS is
                              able to<br>
                              work with other kind of algorithms such as
                              MC. Actually, we have idea to work with
                              MC. But,<br>
                              I don't know when it will be possible. If
                              you want, we can talk about join these
                              work.<br>
                              <br>
                              Best regards,<br>
                              <br>
                              --<br>
                              Rodrigo Antonio Faccioli<br>
                              Ph.D Student in Electrical Engineering<br>
                              University of Sao Paulo - USP<br>
                              Engineering School of Sao Carlos - EESC<br>
                              Department of Electrical Engineering - SEL<br>
                              Intelligent System in Structure
                              Bioinformatics<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br"
                                target="_blank">http://laips.sel.eesc.usp.br</a><br>
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                                target="_blank">
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                              <br>
                              <br>
                              On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Gianluca
                              Interlandi &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:gianluca@u.washington.edu"
                                target="_blank">gianluca@u.washington.edu</a>&gt;
                              wrote:<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Hi!<br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I would like to use gromacs to
                              perform Monte Carlo simulations in
                              implicit<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;solvent of a protein near a surface.
                              The protein is treated as a rigid body<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;whereas the surface is fix.<br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I see that there are plans to code MC
                              into gromacs:<br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gromacs.org/Developer_Zone/Programming_Guide/Monte_Carlo"
                                target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Developer_Zone/Programming_Guide/Monte_Carlo</a><br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Is there a preliminary version?<br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;If not, I wonder whether anybody has
                              tried to do MC with gromacs using IMD and<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;MDDriver:<br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.baaden.ibpc.fr/projects/mddriver/"
                                target="_blank">http://www.baaden.ibpc.fr/projects/mddriver/</a><br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Besides this. Is there an easy way to
                              obtain the force field energy of a system<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;using gromacs? Would I have to run a
                              0-steps MD and read out the energy? I know<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;that this would have a big overhead
                              in a MC simulation, but it might be worth<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;trying.<br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Thanks,<br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; Gianluca<br>
                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;-----------------------------------------------------<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Gianluca Interlandi, PhD <a
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                              <br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Postdoc at the Department of
                              Bioengineering<br>
                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;at the University of Washington,
                              Seattle WA U.S.A.<br>
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