Mark,<br><br><br>due to hight density the volume of my system have been slightly increased and during NPT phase I&#39;ve obtained error<br><br>Fatal error:<br>One of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off length or box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off.<br>
<br>I&#39;m using 0.9 for electrostatic and 1.4 for vdw cutofs and the dimensions of my box was 6.5 3 3 on the initial step and 6.6 3 3.3 before crush :)<br><br>I want prevent such expansion of my system by increasing of pressure and/ or compressibility but I have not found exact sollution yet.<br>
<br><br>James<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 Mark Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    On 14/02/2012 11:01 PM, James Starlight wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">This also was solved by the some extra minimisation
      steps.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      I&#39;ve forced with another problem :D<br>
      <br>
      During npt equilibration my system have slightly expanded so my
      desired volume and density were perturbed.<br>
      <br>
      I&#39;ve noticed the below options in npt wich could help me<br>
      <br>
      ref_p        = 1 1              <br>
      compressibility = 4.5e-5    <br>
      <br>
       i&#39;m using this compressibility value   because I&#39;m modelling the
      lipid-like environment so I think that I must increase pressure. 
      Could you remind me the dependence of pressure from density and
      volume for liquids ? :)<br>
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    Your forcefield, simulation cell contents and .mdp settings will
    determine the equilibrium density. Whether you need to do anything
    depends on whether you&#39;ve made a statistically significant
    post-equilibration measurement of your average density. Haphazardly
    increasing the reference pressure for the coupling will reduce the
    volume, but now you are simulating at that pressure. See <a href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure" target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure</a>
    for background info.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
    <br>
    Mark</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <br>
      James<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 James Starlight <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jmsstarlight@gmail.com" target="_blank">jmsstarlight@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          It seems that I&#39;ve fixed that problem by reduce vdv radii for
          Cl during defining of my box<br>
          <br>
          Eventually I&#39;ve obtained box with the desired density<br>
           than I&#39;ve delete vdvradii.dat for my wor dir<br>
          <br>
          by when I&#39;ve launched equilibration I&#39;ve oibtained<br>
          <br>
          Fatal error:<br>
          Too many LINCS warnings (1598)<br>
          If you know what you are doing you can adjust the lincs
          warning threshold in your mdp file<br>
          <br>
          I&#39;ve never seen this before<br>
          <br>
          I&#39;m using 1.o cutoff for pme and 1.4 for vdv<br>
          my LINKS parameters are<br>
          <br>
          ; Bond parameters<br>
          continuation    = no        ; first dynamics run<br>
          constraint_algorithm = lincs    ; holonomic constraints <br>
          constraints    = all-bonds    ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H
          bonds) constrained<br>
          lincs_iter    = 1        ; accuracy of LINCS<br>
          lincs_order    = 4        ; also related to accuracy<br>
          <br>
          How I could solve it?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
              <br>
              <br>
              James</font></span>
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              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 James Starlight <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jmsstarlight@gmail.com" target="_blank">jmsstarlight@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Mark,<br>
                  <br>
                  I&#39;ve checked only density value<br>
                  <br>
                  with 500 molecules Ccl4 I have  density that is
                  twisely less that I need ( in accordance to the
                  literature ). Also I&#39;ve checked my box visually and
                  found that the box is not properly tightly packed so I
                  dont know why genbox didnt add some extra mollecules
                  :(<br>
                  <br>
                  In other words I wounder to know if  there is any way
                  to add some extra molecules to the pre defined box to
                  make my system more tighly packed  ( to short distance
                  between existing molecules and place new ones in the
                  new space ) ?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                      <br>
                      James</font></span>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 Mark Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au" target="_blank">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                          <div>On 14/02/2012 4:57 PM, James Starlight
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              Justin,<br>
                              <br>
                              Firstly I&#39;ve created the box of desired
                              size with only 500 molecules ( I need
                              1000)<br>
                              <br>
                              Than I&#39;ve tried to add extra 200 molecules
                              by means of Genbox<br>
                              <br>
                              genbox -cp super_box.gro -ci Ccl4.gro
                              -nmol 200 -o new_solv.gro<br>
                              <br>
                              but no molecules have been added<br>
                              Added 0 molecules (out of 200 requested)
                              of Cl4<br>
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                          ... then there are no gaps large enough to
                          insert your molecules. Either make gaps, or
                          check out genbox -h for advice on defining the
                          radii.
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                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              <br>
                              also I&#39;ve tried<br>
                              <br>
                              genbox -cp super_box.gro -cp Ccl4.gro
                              -nmol 200 -o new_solv.gro<br>
                            </blockquote>
                            <br>
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                          Two -cp options is not what you want, and
                          -nmol probably only works with -ci.
                          <div><br>
                            <br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              <br>
                              but system were crashed with message<br>
                              <br>
                              Reading solute configuration<br>
                              God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos
                              and Such<br>
                              Containing 2500 atoms in 500 residues<br>
                              Initialising van der waals distances...<br>
                              <br>
                              WARNING: masses and atomic (Van der Waals)
                              radii will be determined<br>
                                      based on residue and atom names.
                              These numbers can deviate<br>
                                      from the correct mass and radius
                              of the atom type.<br>
                              <br>
                              Reading solvent configuration<br>
                              &quot;God Rules Over Mankind, Animals, Cosmos
                              and Such&quot;<br>
                              solvent configuration contains 5 atoms in
                              1 residues<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Is there any ways to add extra mollecules
                              to the pre defined box ?<br>
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                          Yes - but there has to be room for them.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                              <br>
                              Mark</font></span>
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