<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
      http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    On 15/02/2012 4:45 PM, James Starlight wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAALQopwtkYfp6Xk8x=0U8WXaRaTO_6VQBevJh6aypDBAQ_KD8g@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Mark,<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      due to hight density the volume of my system have been slightly
      increased and during NPT phase I've obtained error<br>
      <br>
      Fatal error:<br>
      One of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off
      length or box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the
      cut-off.<br>
      <br>
      I'm using 0.9 for electrostatic and 1.4 for vdw cutofs and the
      dimensions of my box was 6.5 3 3 on the initial step and 6.6 3 3.3
      before crush :)<br>
      <br>
      I want prevent such expansion of my system by increasing of
      pressure and/ or compressibility but I have not found exact
      sollution yet.<br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Your system is dangerously small for those cut-offs if your initial
    density is not correct for your model physics. Your y and z
    dimensions only just contain a full cut-off sphere. You should also
    make sure you are following the advice about choice of P-coupling
    algorithm in manual 3.4.9, and consider using a very small
    integration time step. I remain unconvinced by this thread that you
    have generated a starting configuration that does not have atomic
    clashes.<br>
    <br>
    Mark<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAALQopwtkYfp6Xk8x=0U8WXaRaTO_6VQBevJh6aypDBAQ_KD8g@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <br>
      <br>
      James<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 Mark Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span><br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
            <div class="im"> On 14/02/2012 11:01 PM, James Starlight
              wrote:
              <blockquote type="cite">This also was solved by the some
                extra minimisation steps.<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                I've forced with another problem :D<br>
                <br>
                During npt equilibration my system have slightly
                expanded so my desired volume and density were
                perturbed.<br>
                <br>
                I've noticed the below options in npt wich could help me<br>
                <br>
                ref_p&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 1 1 &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
                compressibility = 4.5e-5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
                <br>
                &nbsp;i'm using this compressibility value&nbsp;&nbsp; because I'm
                modelling the lipid-like environment so I think that I
                must increase pressure.&nbsp; Could you remind me the
                dependence of pressure from density and volume for
                liquids ? :)<br>
              </blockquote>
              <br>
            </div>
            Your forcefield, simulation cell contents and .mdp settings
            will determine the equilibrium density. Whether you need to
            do anything depends on whether you've made a statistically
            significant post-equilibration measurement of your average
            density. Haphazardly increasing the reference pressure for
            the coupling will reduce the volume, but now you are
            simulating at that pressure. See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure"
              target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure</a>
            for background info.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
                color="#888888"><br>
                <br>
                Mark</font></span>
            <div>
              <div class="h5"><br>
                <br>
                <blockquote type="cite"> <br>
                  James<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 James Starlight <span
                      dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:jmsstarlight@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">jmsstarlight@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      It seems that I've fixed that problem by reduce
                      vdv radii for Cl during defining of my box<br>
                      <br>
                      Eventually I've obtained box with the desired
                      density<br>
                      &nbsp;than I've delete vdvradii.dat for my wor dir<br>
                      <br>
                      by when I've launched equilibration I've oibtained<br>
                      <br>
                      Fatal error:<br>
                      Too many LINCS warnings (1598)<br>
                      If you know what you are doing you can adjust the
                      lincs warning threshold in your mdp file<br>
                      <br>
                      I've never seen this before<br>
                      <br>
                      I'm using 1.o cutoff for pme and 1.4 for vdv<br>
                      my LINKS parameters are<br>
                      <br>
                      ; Bond parameters<br>
                      continuation&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = no&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ; first dynamics run<br>
                      constraint_algorithm = lincs&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ; holonomic
                      constraints <br>
                      constraints&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = all-bonds&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ; all bonds (even
                      heavy atom-H bonds) constrained<br>
                      lincs_iter&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ; accuracy of LINCS<br>
                      lincs_order&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ; also related to
                      accuracy<br>
                      <br>
                      How I could solve it?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          James</font></span>
                      <div>
                        <div><br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 James
                            Starlight <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:jmsstarlight@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">jmsstarlight@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                              style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                              #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Mark,<br>
                              <br>
                              I've checked only density value<br>
                              <br>
                              with 500 molecules Ccl4 I have&nbsp; density
                              that is twisely less that I need ( in
                              accordance to the literature ). Also I've
                              checked my box visually and found that the
                              box is not properly tightly packed so I
                              dont know why genbox didnt add some extra
                              mollecules :(<br>
                              <br>
                              In other words I wounder to know if&nbsp; there
                              is any way to add some extra molecules to
                              the pre defined box to make my system more
                              tighly packed&nbsp; ( to short distance between
                              existing molecules and place new ones in
                              the new space ) ?<span><font
                                  color="#888888"><br>
                                  <br>
                                  James</font></span>
                              <div>
                                <div><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14
                                    Mark Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au"
                                        target="_blank">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span><br>
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                      style="margin:0 0 0
                                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                      solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div>On 14/02/2012 4:57 PM, James
                                        Starlight wrote:<br>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin:0 0 0
                                          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                          Justin,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Firstly I've created the box
                                          of desired size with only 500
                                          molecules ( I need 1000)<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Than I've tried to add extra
                                          200 molecules by means of
                                          Genbox<br>
                                          <br>
                                          genbox -cp super_box.gro -ci
                                          Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o
                                          new_solv.gro<br>
                                          <br>
                                          but no molecules have been
                                          added<br>
                                          Added 0 molecules (out of 200
                                          requested) of Cl4<br>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                      ... then there are no gaps large
                                      enough to insert your molecules.
                                      Either make gaps, or check out
                                      genbox -h for advice on defining
                                      the radii.
                                      <div><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin:0 0 0
                                          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                          solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
                                          also I've tried<br>
                                          <br>
                                          genbox -cp super_box.gro -cp
                                          Ccl4.gro -nmol 200 -o
                                          new_solv.gro<br>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                      Two -cp options is not what you
                                      want, and -nmol probably only
                                      works with -ci.
                                      <div><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin:0 0 0
                                          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                          solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
                                          but system were crashed with
                                          message<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Reading solute configuration<br>
                                          God Rules Over Mankind,
                                          Animals, Cosmos and Such<br>
                                          Containing 2500 atoms in 500
                                          residues<br>
                                          Initialising van der waals
                                          distances...<br>
                                          <br>
                                          WARNING: masses and atomic
                                          (Van der Waals) radii will be
                                          determined<br>
                                          &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; based on residue and
                                          atom names. These numbers can
                                          deviate<br>
                                          &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; from the correct mass
                                          and radius of the atom type.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Reading solvent configuration<br>
                                          "God Rules Over Mankind,
                                          Animals, Cosmos and Such"<br>
                                          solvent configuration contains
                                          5 atoms in 1 residues<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Is there any ways to add extra
                                          mollecules to the pre defined
                                          box ?<br>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                      Yes - but there has to be room for
                                      them.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          Mark</font></span>
                                      <div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          -- <br>
                                          gmx-users mailing list &nbsp; &nbsp;<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org"
                                            target="_blank">gmx-users@gromacs.org</a><br>
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users"
                                            target="_blank">http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users</a><br>
                                          Please search the archive at <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search"
                                            target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search</a>
                                          before posting!<br>
                                          Please don't post
                                          (un)subscribe requests to the
                                          list. Use the www interface or
                                          send it to <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:gmx-users-request@gromacs.org"
                                            target="_blank">gmx-users-request@gromacs.org</a>.<br>
                                          Can't post? Read <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists"
                                            target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists</a><br>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </blockquote>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <fieldset></fieldset>
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          --<br>
          gmx-users mailing list &nbsp; &nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org">gmx-users@gromacs.org</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users"
            target="_blank">http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users</a><br>
          Please search the archive at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search"
            target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists/Search</a>
          before posting!<br>
          Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the<br>
          www interface or send it to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:gmx-users-request@gromacs.org">gmx-users-request@gromacs.org</a>.<br>
          Can't post? Read <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists"
            target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists</a><br>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <br>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>