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    On 29/02/2012 9:05 PM, aiswarya pawar wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAEa6cRDFM0A9r=YEAnBwVDFdOFs1PfYHMZq0Q0M7kybTXLBqWg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Mark,<br>
      <br>
      In the g_mindist output data gives which atom was within cutoff to
      protein atom ie the output file of g_mindist <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    What makes you think there is only one atom satisfying that cutoff?<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAEa6cRDFM0A9r=YEAnBwVDFdOFs1PfYHMZq0Q0M7kybTXLBqWg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite"><br>
      5.000000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 42680<br>
      5.010000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 20942<br>
      5.020000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 67844<br>
      5.030000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5984<br>
      5.040000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 67844<br>
      5.050000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5984<br>
      5.060000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 30116<br>
      5.070000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 67844<br>
      5.080000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 32957<br>
      5.090000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 67844<br>
      5.100000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 19610<br>
      5.110000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 19610<br>
      5.120000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22895<br>
      5.130000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 30116<br>
      5.140000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 19610<br>
      5.150000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22895<br>
      5.160000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 13628<br>
      5.170000e+02&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 518&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5984<br>
      <br>
      2nd column is the protein atom and the 3rd column the water atom.<br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Chunk of output from an unnamed file without giving the command line
    that generated it is close to useless :-) Anyway, whatever
    information is present here is not helping you observe the duration
    of a contact between the protein and any given water molecule.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAEa6cRDFM0A9r=YEAnBwVDFdOFs1PfYHMZq0Q0M7kybTXLBqWg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite"><br>
      if iam doing g_dist how is it possible to know the which water
      molecule has to be considered for the distance calculations ie
      should i compute the distance between one protein atom against all
      the water within the cut off individually?<br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    If you have read g_dist -h and want to ask this question, then I did
    not understand your previous statement of your objective.<br>
    <br>
    Mark<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAEa6cRDFM0A9r=YEAnBwVDFdOFs1PfYHMZq0Q0M7kybTXLBqWg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <br>
      Thanks<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Mark
        Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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            <div class="im"> On 29/02/2012 7:21 PM, aiswarya pawar
              wrote: </div>
            <blockquote type="cite">Mark,<br>
              <br>
              <div class="im"> i want to know which water atoms stay
                within a cut off to protein atom.</div>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
            OK, but as you will read in g_mindist -h, it will count such
            atoms and not identify which they were...
            <div class="im"><br>
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite"> ie i need the duration at which a
                water resides on the protein atoms.</blockquote>
              <br>
            </div>
            ... and identity of the atoms is needed for measuring
            duration of contact. g_dist does something like this, and
            reading g_mindist -h should have prompted you to find this
            out.<br>
            <br>
            Otherwise, you will have to construct an index group for
            each water molecule, and script a loop to examine each water
            molecule separately using some tool that observes what you
            really want to measure.
            <div class="im"><br>
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite"> so for that i need the whole 5ns
                frames because am looking for water molecules which
                reside more than 50% of time.<br>
              </blockquote>
              <br>
            </div>
            You also need to be clear about whether you care about
            continuous contact. Does a water molecule that oscillates at
            a distance around the cutoff reside about 50% of the time?<br>
            <br>
            You still don't need high time resolution for testing
            whether this analysis might give you the information you
            want. The water molecules that are in contact for more than
            50% of the time (continuous or not) will show up in 5
            snapsnots spaced every nanosecond. 5000 snapshots every
            picosecond is better, but not if you can't afford to wait
            for it.
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              <div class="h5"><br>
                <br>
                Mark<br>
                <br>
                <blockquote type="cite"> <br>
                  Thanks<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:41
                    PM, Mark Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au"
                        target="_blank">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        <div> On 29/02/2012 6:01 PM, aiswarya pawar
                          wrote:
                          <blockquote type="cite">Mark,<br>
                            <br>
                            Right now am computing distance between each
                            protein atom against all water atoms,</blockquote>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        That's expensive. mdrun goes to great lengths to
                        speed up computing billions of distances. <br>
                        <div> <br>
                          <blockquote type="cite"> which is taking too
                            long for 5ns run. i cant reduce the frames</blockquote>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        Yes you can. Even if you think you need data
                        from every frame, you probably don't because
                        they're correlated with each other, and at the
                        very least you can do a pilot study on a frame
                        every 100ps or every nanosecond before
                        committing to one on all the frames.
                        <div><br>
                          <br>
                          <blockquote type="cite"> either the number of
                            water atoms. So is there any alternate.<br>
                            <br>
                          </blockquote>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        You are not likely to get a better solution if
                        you only describe your attempt, rather than
                        describe the objective. Asking "how do I hammer
                        harder?" if you're hammering a screw makes it
                        impossible to get the correct solution "Use a
                        screwdriver".<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                            <br>
                            Mark</font></span>
                        <div><br>
                          <br>
                          <blockquote type="cite">Thanks<br>
                            <br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29,
                              2012 at 12:27 PM, Mark Abraham <span
                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au"
                                  target="_blank">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                  <div> On 29/02/2012 5:17 PM, aiswarya
                                    pawar wrote:
                                    <blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Am running g_mindist on large
                                      number of atoms, i would like to
                                      know whether i can run this on
                                      more than one processors say 8
                                      processors to speed up the task?</blockquote>
                                    <br>
                                  </div>
                                  No. If it will take too long, you need
                                  to reduce your number of frames
                                  (trjconv), or the number of atoms
                                  (also trjconv), or some such.<span><font
                                      color="#888888"><br>
                                      <br>
                                      Mark</font></span>
                                  <div><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <blockquote type="cite"> and will
                                      this effect the output in anyways.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Thanks,<br clear="all">
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