<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Mark Abraham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    On 2/03/2012 9:22 AM, Steven Neumann wrote:
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        A. Lemkul <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;</span>
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          Steven Neumann wrote:<br>
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              On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Justin A. Lemkul &lt;<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>

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                 Steven Neumann wrote:<br>
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            <div>        On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM,
              Steven Neumann<br>
                     &lt;<a href="mailto:s.neumann08@gmail.com" target="_blank">s.neumann08@gmail.com</a>
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                        On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Steven Neumann<br>
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:s.neumann08@gmail.com" target="_blank">s.neumann08@gmail.com</a>
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                            On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Justin A.
              Lemkul<br>
                            &lt;<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>
              &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;<br>
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              <div>        &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a> &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:jalemkul@vt.edu" target="_blank">jalemkul@vt.edu</a>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
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                                  Steven Neumann wrote:<br>
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                                      Dear Gmx Users,<br>
                                       I am trying to run nvt simulation
                (equilibration) of<br>
                                      the protein in implicit solvent.
                My mdp:<br>
                                                       integrator = md ;
                leap-frog<br>
                       integrator<br>
                <br>
                                      nsteps = 1000000 ; 0.0005 *
                1000000 = 0.5 ns<br>
                <br>
                                      dt = 0.0005 ; 0.5 fs<br>
                <br>
                                      ; Output control<br>
                <br>
                                      nstxout = 10000<br>
                <br>
                                      nstxtcout = 10000 ; xtc compressed
                trajectory output<br>
                                      every 2 ps<br>
                <br>
                                      nstenergy = 10000 ; save energies
                every 2 ps<br>
                <br>
                                      nstlog = 10000 ; update log file
                every 2 ps<br>
                <br>
                                      ; Bond parameters<br>
                <br>
                                      continuation = no<br>
                <br>
                                      constraints = none<br>
                <br>
                                      ; Neighborsearching<br>
                <br>
                                      ns_type = simple ; search
                neighboring grid cells<br>
                <br>
                                      nstlist = 0 ; 10 fs<br>
                <br>
                                      rlist = 0 ; short-range
                neighborlist cutoff (in nm)<br>
                <br>
                                      ; Infinite box with no cutoffs<br>
                <br>
                                      pbc = no<br>
                <br>
                                      rcoulomb = 0 ; short-range
                electrostatic cutoff<br>
                       (in nm)<br>
                <br>
                                      coulombtype = cut-off<br>
                <br>
                                      vdwtype = cut-off<br>
                <br>
                                      rvdw = 0 ; short-range van der
                Waals cutoff (in nm)<br>
                <br>
                                      epsilon_rf = 0<br>
                <br>
                                      comm_mode = angular ; remove
                angular and com motions<br>
                <br>
                                      ; implicit solvent<br>
                <br>
                                      implicit_solvent = GBSA<br>
                <br>
                                      gb_algorithm = OBC<br>
                <br>
                                      gb_epsilon_solvent = 80.0<br>
                <br>
                                      sa_surface_tension = 2.25936<br>
                <br>
                                      rgbradii = 0<br>
                <br>
                                      sa_algorithm = Ace-approximation<br>
                <br>
                                      nstgbradii = 1<br>
                <br>
                                      ; Temperature coupling is on<br>
                <br>
                                      Tcoupl = v-rescale<br>
                <br>
                                      tau_t = 0.1<br>
                <br>
                                      tc_grps = system<br>
                <br>
                                      ref_t = 298<br>
                <br>
                                      ; Velocity generation<br>
                <br>
                                      gen_vel = yes ; Velocity
                generation is on<br>
                <br>
                                      gen_temp = 298.0<br>
                <br>
                                      gen_seed = -1<br>
                <br>
                                      Then after grompp I am trying to
                run the<br>
                       simulation on<br>
                                      the cluster:<br>
                <br>
                                      mdrun -pd -deffnm nvt500ps<br>
                <br>
                                      My log file:<br>
                <br>
                                      Back Off! I just backed up
                nvt500ps.log to<br>
                                      ./#nvt500ps.log.1#<br>
                <br>
                                      Reading file nvt500ps.tpr, VERSION
                4.5.4 (single<br>
                       precision)<br>
                <br>
                                      Starting 8 threads<br>
                <br>
                                      Back Off! I just backed up
                nvt500ps.trr to<br>
                                      ./#nvt500ps.trr.1#<br>
                <br>
                                      Back Off! I just backed up
                nvt500ps.xtc to<br>
                                      ./#nvt500ps.xtc.1#<br>
                <br>
                                      Back Off! I just backed up
                nvt500ps.edr to<br>
                                      ./#nvt500ps.edr.1#<br>
                <br>
                                      starting mdrun &#39;Protein&#39;<br>
                <br>
                                      1000000 steps, 500.0 ps.<br>
                <br>
                                      Segmentation fault<br>
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                                                       Do you have any
                clue what is<br>
                       happening?<br>
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                                  Try running in serial or with a
                maximum of 2 threads.<br>
                        Your<br>
                                  problem could be related to<br>
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                              <a href="http://redmine.gromacs.org/____issues/777" target="_blank">http://redmine.gromacs.org/____issues/777</a><br>
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                                &lt;<a href="http://redmine.gromacs.org/__issues/777" target="_blank">http://redmine.gromacs.org/__issues/777</a><br>
                     &lt;<a href="http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/777" target="_blank">http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/777</a>&gt;&gt;.
               You will need to<br>
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                                upgrade to 4.5.5 (serial should work on
              4.5.4).<br>
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                                -Justin<br>
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                                     Thank you. What do you mean by
              running in<br>
                     serial? Well... with 2<br>
                            threads it does not make sense to use
              implicit solvent. Will<br>
                            4.5.5 resolve this problem?<br>
                                            Indeed, it works in serial.
              Will version 4.5.5 resolve<br>
                     it run it on<br>
                        e.g. 12 nodes?<br>
                                 Sorry, the same problem :<br>
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                 I think, as stated in the redmine issue cited before,
              the limit is 2<br>
                 threads/processors.<br>
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                 -Justin<br>
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              I tried on one thread and on two threads and the error is
              still the same. Without particle decomposition the problem
              remains. Any suggestions?<br>
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          Then the problem lies outside of the algorithms.  Your system
          has become instantly unstable, thus suggesting that you have
          not sufficiently minimized or equilibrated the structure.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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          I run the same simulation with cutoff of 2.0 and it works
          fine. Does it mean I cannot use vdw and coulombic cutoff set
          to 0? It would be more realistic.<br>
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    Thus you have an unstable initial system, and can get lucky under
    some conditions. Follow the advice here to explore how you can
    increase the chance of being lucky under your desired conditions: <a href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up" target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up</a>.
    Or use the end point of the rc=2.0 simulation as input for one with
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<br></blockquote><div>Thank you Mark!<br><br>Steven <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">--<br>
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