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<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dear Abraham,<br>
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How would it work if I remove the hydrogen atoms that I wish to ignore from my input co-ordinate file? The pdb2gmx tries to add the missing hydorgen atoms for which the .hdb doesn't have information.<br>
<br>
In my case here, I can consider heme as a ligand instead of having it as protein since it doesn't need to be the part of the protein.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your information.<br>
Sundar<br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>

From: Mark Abraham &lt;Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au&gt;<br>

To: Discussion list for GROMACS users &lt;gmx-users@gromacs.org&gt;<br>

Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 6:42 pm<br>

Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF<br>

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    On 20/04/2012 7:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:
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<div> Dear Abraham,<br>


            <br>


            I am ignoring hydrogens for the protein residues since I am
            not sure if the Gromacs has an option to ignore hydrogen
            only for pretein residues but not for the heme complexed
            with it.<br>


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    <br>


    No, there is no ability to ignore them selectively - but if you want
    to ignore any of them, you have to address the heme hydrogen
    database issue, or go and remove the hydrogen atoms that you wish to
    ignore from your input coordinate file.<br>


    <br>


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            <br>


            One of my colleagues suggested to treat the Heme as an
            ligand not as a part of the protein to solve this issue. How
            would that really affect the accuracy of the simulation?<br>


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    <br>


    It's not a question of accuracy, but rather that if you have bonded
    interactions between heme and protein, they have to be part of the
    same [moleculetype], which is what pdb2gmx is struggling to
    generate.<br>


    <br>


    Mark<br>


    <br>


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            Thanks<br>


            Sundar<br>


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            From: Mark Abraham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">&lt;Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au&gt;</a><br>


            To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org">&lt;gmx-users@gromacs.org&gt;</a><br>


            Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 3:57 pm<br>


            Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27 FF<br>


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              On 20/04/2012 4:38 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:
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<div> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dear
                        Abraham,<br>


                        <br>


                        Thanks for your email. I have already read the
                        manual to solve the problem but I wasn't
                        successful.<br>


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              That's good to say (particularly the first time you post a
              request for help, else you'll just get told to go and
              read), but is unlikely to get much help because you
              haven't identified a specific problem. You'd like the
              ability to build hydrogen atoms on a heme residue. pdb2gmx
              has to have a specific recipe for doing that. The manual
              describes the required format and gives an example.
              Someone's going to have to do some work.<br>


              <br>


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                        I need little more detailed answer to solve the
                        problem. <br>


                        <br>


                        By the way, here is the full command line for
                        which I got the error.<br>


                        <br>


                        $ pdb2gmx -f CYP.pdb -o CYP_CHARMM.pdb -p
                        CYP1_CHARMM.top -i CYP_CHARMM.itp -ignh<br>


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              <br>


              If you don't ignore hydrogens, and they're already
              correct, you don't need to re-generate them...<br>


              <br>


              Mark<br>


              <br>


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                        The error is<br>


                        <br>


                      </font><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">WARNING:
                              atom HA is missing in residue HEM 513 in
                              the pdb file<br>


                              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You might need to add atom HA to
                              the hydrogen database of building block
                              HEME<br>


                              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in the file aminoacids.hdb (see
                              the manual)<br>


                              <br>


                              <br>


                              WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue HEM
                              513 in the pdb file<br>


                              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You might need to add atom HB to
                              the hydrogen database of building block
                              HEME<br>


                              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in the file aminoacids.hdb (see
                              the manual)<br>


                              <br>


                              <br>


                              WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue HEM
                              513 in the pdb file<br>


                              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You might need to add atom HC to
                              the hydrogen database of building block
                              HEME<br>


                              &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in the file aminoacids.hdb (see
                              the manual)<br>


                              <br>


                              .<br>


                              .<br>


                              .<br>


                              .<br>


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                              Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3<br>


                              Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1449<br>


                              <br>


                              Fatal error:<br>


                              There were 30 missing atoms in molecule
                              Protein, if you want to use this
                              incomplete topology anyhow, use the option
                              -missing<br>


                              For more information and tips for
                              troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS<br>


                              website at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors</a><br>


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                              <br>


                              Thanks.<br>


                              <br>


                              Sundar Jubilant<br>


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                      From: Mark Abraham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">&lt;Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au&gt;</a><br>


                      To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org">&lt;gmx-users@gromacs.org&gt;</a><br>


                      Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 2:17 pm<br>


                      Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Heme group with CHARMM27
                      FF<br>


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<div id="AOLMsgPart_2_989141e2-b2c9-4465-ab1e-9f4619eb8577">
                        On 20/04/2012 2:33 PM, Sundar Jubilant wrote:
                        <blockquote type="cite"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><font face="Arial,                                 Helvetica, sans-serif">Dear gmx-users,<br>


                                <br>


                                I am new to Gromacs and trying to
                                simulate a protein with a heme group
                                using CHARMM27 ff in Gromacs 4.5.3. I
                                have received the following error while
                                running pdb2gmx .<br>


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                        <br>


                        When asking for help, please give your full
                        command lines and/or interactive selections so
                        that we can know more context.<br>


                        <br>


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                                WARNING: atom HA is missing in residue
                                HEM 513 in the pdb file<br>


                                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You might need to add atom HA
                                to the hydrogen database of building
                                block HEME<br>


                                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in the file aminoacids.hdb (see
                                the manual)<br>


                                <br>


                                <br>


                                WARNING: atom HB is missing in residue
                                HEM 513 in the pdb file<br>


                                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You might need to add atom HB
                                to the hydrogen database of building
                                block HEME<br>


                                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in the file aminoacids.hdb (see
                                the manual)<br>


                                <br>


                                <br>


                                WARNING: atom HC is missing in residue
                                HEM 513 in the pdb file<br>


                                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You might need to add atom HC
                                to the hydrogen database of building
                                block HEME<br>


                                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in the file aminoacids.hdb (see
                                the manual)<br>


                                <br>


                                .<br>


                                .<br>


                                .<br>


                                .<br>


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                                Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.3<br>


                                Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1449<br>


                                <br>


                                Fatal error:<br>


                                There were 30 missing atoms in molecule
                                Protein, if you want to use this
                                incomplete topology anyhow, use the
                                option -missing<br>


                                For more information and tips for
                                troubleshooting, please check the
                                GROMACS<br>


                                website at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors</a><br>


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                                <br>


                                Can anyone help how can I generate and
                                add hydrogen database information for
                                heme to be used with CHARMM27 ff?</font></font></font><br>


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                              You'll have to read the applicable
                              sections of manual chapter 5, make a local
                              copy of the charmm27.ff folder in your
                              working directory and editing
                              aminoacids.hdb to add the generation
                              information. When you're done, please post
                              your efforts so that others might be able
                              to benefit from them in future. (Also,
                              search first in case this has already
                              happened!)<br>


                              <br>


                              Mark<br>


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