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    On 23/05/2012 6:42 PM, Alan wrote:
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cite="mid:CAEznbzmHrweAcvyZj2YVLebi-JGXHic1Pqr3fq9CMfuuj4XRDg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Thanks Justin, you were right. In the end gmxdump
      helped to clear some doubts but I wished it would be less
      painfully.</blockquote>
    <br>
    One useful approach is to simplify the system as much as possible
    before producing the .tpr and using gmxdump. The necessary
    cross-referencing is easier to see when the complexity of the
    contents is low.<br>
    <br>
    Mark<br>
    <br>
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cite="mid:CAEznbzmHrweAcvyZj2YVLebi-JGXHic1Pqr3fq9CMfuuj4XRDg@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div>Cheers,</div>
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      <div>Alan<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 22 May 2012 12:36, Justin A. Lemkul
          <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          wrote:<br>
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              On 5/22/12 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                Hi Justin, your suggestion got close. However, let me
                give an example. You can<br>
                use the Gly-Gly-Gly example I am attaching and do this:<br>
                <br>
                pdb2gmx -ff amber99sb -f aGGG.pdb -o aGGG_.pdb -p
                aGGG.top &nbsp;-water none<br>
                /sw/bin/grompp -c aGGG_.pdb -p aGGG.top -f SPE.mdp -o
                aGGG.tpr -pp aGGGp.top<br>
                <br>
                if you look at aGGGp.top I can't find which parameters
                were used for<br>
                <br>
                [ dihedrals ]<br>
                ; &nbsp;ai &nbsp; &nbsp;aj &nbsp; &nbsp;ak &nbsp; &nbsp;al funct &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;c0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                &nbsp;c1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;c2<br>
                &nbsp; &nbsp;c3 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;c4 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;c5<br>
                &nbsp; &nbsp; 2 &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 &nbsp; &nbsp; 5 &nbsp; &nbsp; 6 &nbsp; &nbsp; 9<br>
                <br>
                I.e., for proper dihedral (H1- &nbsp; &nbsp; N- &nbsp; &nbsp;CA- &nbsp; HA1), I
                can't find<br>
                in amber99sb.ff/forcefield.itp any combination that
                handles parameters for<br>
                X-N-CA-X or X-CA-N-X, so how grompp is interpreting this
                dihedral?<br>
                <br>
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            Make sure you're looking at types, not names. &nbsp;The type
            sequence here is H-N3-CT-HP, which I think is mapped to this
            dihedral:<br>
            <br>
            &nbsp;X &nbsp; CT &nbsp;N3 &nbsp;X &nbsp; &nbsp; 9 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.65084 &nbsp; &nbsp; 3 &nbsp;;
            JCC,7,(1986),230<br>
            <br>
            Running gmxdump on the .tpr file will show it for sure; I
            had assumed it would be in the post-processed topology as
            well, but I guess not.<br>
            <br>
            -Justin<br>
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                Thanks,<br>
                <br>
                Alan<br>
                <br>
                On 21 May 2012 18:50, Justin A. Lemkul &lt;<a
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                  wrote:<br>
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                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp;On 5/21/12 2:43 PM, Alan wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Hi there,<br>
                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Is there an option in pdb2gmx that when
                  generating the top/itp file, it<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;could<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;show the parameters explicitly? e.g.:<br>
                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Instead of:<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[ dihedrals ]<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;; &nbsp;ai &nbsp; &nbsp;aj &nbsp; &nbsp;ak &nbsp; &nbsp;al funct &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;c0 &nbsp; &nbsp;
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;c1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;c2<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;c3<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5 &nbsp; &nbsp;13 &nbsp; &nbsp;11 &nbsp; &nbsp;12 &nbsp; &nbsp; 4<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;11 &nbsp; &nbsp;15 &nbsp; &nbsp;13 &nbsp; &nbsp;14 &nbsp; &nbsp; 4<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;15 &nbsp; &nbsp;23 &nbsp; &nbsp;21 &nbsp; &nbsp;22 &nbsp; &nbsp; 4<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;21 &nbsp; &nbsp;25 &nbsp; &nbsp;23 &nbsp; &nbsp;24 &nbsp; &nbsp; 4<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;25 &nbsp; &nbsp;32 &nbsp; &nbsp;31 &nbsp; &nbsp;33 &nbsp; &nbsp; 4<br>
                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(my hard hand modifications)<br>
                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[ dihedrals ] ; impropers<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;; treated as propers in GROMACS to use correct
                  AMBER analytical function<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;; &nbsp; &nbsp;i &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;j &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;k &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;l &nbsp; func &nbsp; phase &nbsp; &nbsp;
                  kd &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;pn<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;5 &nbsp; &nbsp; 13 &nbsp; &nbsp; 11 &nbsp; &nbsp; 12 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4 &nbsp; 180.00
                  &nbsp;43.93200 &nbsp; 2 ; &nbsp; &nbsp; CA- &nbsp; &nbsp; N-<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;C- &nbsp; &nbsp; O<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11 &nbsp; &nbsp; 15 &nbsp; &nbsp; 13 &nbsp; &nbsp; 14 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4 &nbsp; 180.00 &nbsp;
                  4.60240 &nbsp; 2 ; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;C- &nbsp; &nbsp;CA-<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;N- &nbsp; &nbsp; H<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15 &nbsp; &nbsp; 23 &nbsp; &nbsp; 21 &nbsp; &nbsp; 22 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4 &nbsp; 180.00
                  &nbsp;43.93200 &nbsp; 2 ; &nbsp; &nbsp; CA- &nbsp; &nbsp; N-<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;C- &nbsp; &nbsp; O<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 21 &nbsp; &nbsp; 25 &nbsp; &nbsp; 23 &nbsp; &nbsp; 24 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4 &nbsp; 180.00 &nbsp;
                  4.60240 &nbsp; 2 ; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;C- &nbsp; &nbsp;CA-<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;N- &nbsp; &nbsp; H<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25 &nbsp; &nbsp; 32 &nbsp; &nbsp; 31 &nbsp; &nbsp; 33 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4 &nbsp; 180.00
                  &nbsp;43.93200 &nbsp; 2 ; &nbsp; &nbsp; CA- &nbsp; OC1-<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;C- &nbsp; OC2<br>
                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I mean, if the parameters that are hiding in
                  e.g.<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;...gromacs/top/amber99sb.ff<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;could be showed in the top/itp file for human
                  readers, that would be great.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp;You can obtain these parameters (I believe) by
                  running grompp with the -pp<br>
                  &nbsp; &nbsp;option. &nbsp;If you think it would be a useful feature
                  for pdb2gmx, file a<br>
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