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    On 31/05/2012 7:46 PM, Acoot Brett wrote:
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        <div><span>Hi Mark,</span></div>
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        <div><span>It is confusing. As you know, for the same hydrogen
            bond in a protein, the related hydrogen bond angle and bond
            length can vary within a scope during the whole simulation
            process, however this small vibration of the hydrogen bond
            angle and length can lead to significant energy change, and
            correspondingly the energy of a hydrogen bond in simulation
            can be varied significantly. In comparison with hydrophobic
            effect, it would be too much is the energy of the hydrogen
            bond would be&nbsp; not calculated&nbsp; continuously.</span></div>
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    It isn't, if the model physics isn't paramtrized to include it
    explicitly - which is the case for all the force fields in GROMACS.<br>
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        <div><span>Could you give some further clarification?</span></div>
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    What are trying to do? Measuring "the strength of a hydrogen bond"
    requires you identify a state with and without it and a path between
    them over which you can integrate.<br>
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    Mark<br>
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        <div><span>Cheers,</span></div>
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        <div><span>Acoot<br>
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                <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
                Mark Abraham <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">&lt;Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au&gt;</a><br>
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                Thursday, 31 May 2012 4:48 PM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: [gmx-users] How GROMACS calculate the energy of
                hydrogen bond<br>
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              <div> On 31/05/2012 4:42 PM, Acoot Brett wrote:
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                        face="Calibri">Dear All, </font></div>
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                        face="Calibri">The value of the energy of the
                        hydrogen bond has relation with distance and
                        angle of the hydrogen bond related atoms. As for
                        in the simulation process, the distance and
                        angle of the hydrogen bond related atoms may
                        change continuously. Will you please let me know
                        based on which formula GROMACS calculated the
                        value of the energy of the hydrogen bonds?</font></div>
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                There is no such formula used in MD force fields
                implemented in GROMACS. The only non-bonded interactions
                are the ones you already know about: electrostatics and
                VDW.<br>
                Observables like hydrogen bonds and the hydrophobic
                effect arise from them.<br>
                <br>
                Mark<br>
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