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    On 15/06/2012 3:50 PM, James Starlight wrote:
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cite="mid:CAALQopzwG34eG3r=S2dSbTzYY=-LQvB7o_mgzMBbJfd=vC0P5g@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Hi Tsjerk !<br>
      <br>
      I my case I want to compare large-scale dynamics with more local
      events like fluctuation of the individual side chains so I suppose
      that I need larger number of frames. But how exactly I could
      define this number for my 100ns trajectory? Commoly I've used 5000
      value for all nst* options in MDP file but that produce
      trajectories with ~ 10.000 frames for 100ns. If I increase this
      values&nbsp; from 5000 to 10000 could I see dynamics on the level of
      the individual side-chains ? ( e.g occurence of salt-bridges or
      rotamer isomerisation of the polar side chains during my 100ns
      trajectory ).<br>
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    nst* are numbers of steps between events. If you want finer time
    resolution to see events on short time scales, you need *smaller*
    values for these, and talking about the number of steps is
    meaningless unless you state the size of the time step. See <a
href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume</a>
    for some advice here.<br>
    <br>
    Mark<br>
    <br>
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      <br>
      <br>
      James<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/12 Tsjerk Wassenaar <span
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          Hi James,<br>
          <br>
          Large-scale protein dynamics is low-frequency motion, so you
          don't<br>
          need a high time resolution. For large-scale dynamics alone,
          something<br>
          in the range of 1000-2500 frames should be sufficient,
          depending on<br>
          the size of the system. Note that larger systems require more
          frames,<br>
          as there will be more large scale dynamics to characterize.<br>
          <br>
          Cheers,<br>
          <br>
          Tsjerk<br>
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              On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:29 AM, James Starlight &lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:jmsstarlight@gmail.com">jmsstarlight@gmail.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
              &gt; Mark,<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Thanks for advise.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; As I've found in that link the main way to reduce
              dimension of the output<br>
              &gt; data is the ussage of appropriate nst* params in the
              mdp file, exclusion of<br>
              &gt; the solvent from output and finally ussing compres
              trajectories.<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; Could you tell me what are the most suitable size for
              the nst* params for<br>
              &gt; the typical similation in water ( 50-250 ns) where I
              want to observe both<br>
              &gt; large-scale protein dynamics as well locale
              flexibility of the individual<br>
              &gt; side chain and solvent molecules ? Typically I've
              used 5000 for evert nst*<br>
              &gt; params but that produce relatively big trajetories
              even in the xtc format<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; James<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt;<br>
              &gt; 2012/6/12 Mark Abraham &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au">Mark.Abraham@anu.edu.au</a>&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; On 12/06/2012 4:20 PM, James Starlight wrote:<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; Dear Gromacs Users!<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; I've forced with the problem during analysing
              of long trajectories<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; consisted of &gt; 5000 calculated for average
              system ( ~ 35000 atoms). Commonly<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; I use VMD for analysing of such task but in
              case of long trajectories<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; loading this software has been crashed with
              the memory eror message. Could<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; you advise me the possible way to solve this
              problem<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; See<br>
              &gt;&gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume"
                target="_blank">http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume</a><br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; or another software for visualisation as well
              as extraction of the<br>
              &gt;&gt;&gt; selected steps from trajectory as the pdb
              files ?<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; trjconv -h for command line cut'n'paste.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; Insisting on doing analysis of data .pdb format
              costs you time and space.<br>
              &gt;&gt; If you're having problems with either, then you
              should revisit whether you<br>
              &gt;&gt; need that format.<br>
              &gt;&gt;<br>
              &gt;&gt; Mark<br>
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              Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D.<br>
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              post-doctoral researcher<br>
              Molecular Dynamics Group<br>
              * Groningen Institute for Biomolecular Research and
              Biotechnology<br>
              * Zernike Institute for Advanced Materials<br>
              University of Groningen<br>
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