[gmx-users] Martini simulation problem in recentering trajectory so that the bilayer is at the center

maria goranovic mariagoranovic at gmail.com
Wed Sep 2 17:06:50 CEST 2009


Oh dear. That is not good. the missing decimal point in tau_p it is a typo
all right. but it seems i have used it in the simulations too. thank you for
noticing, Xavier.

that forces  redoing a lot of simulations.

that said, it should still not impact the center of mass removal anyway?

-maria

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:50 PM, XAvier Periole <x.periole at rug.nl> wrote:

>
> your second value for tau_p is missing the "." is this a typo?
>
> On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:45 PM, maria goranovic wrote:
>
> Here are the mdp parameters:
>
>
> title                    =  POPC
> cpp                      = /usr/bin/cpp
> integrator               = md
> tinit                    = 0.0
> dt                       = 0.030
> nsteps                   = 3000000
> nstcomm                  = 1
> comm-grps         = Lipid W
>
> ; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS =
> ; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f) =
> nstxout                  = 30000
> nstvout                  = 30000
> nstfout                  = 0
> nstlog                   = 30000
> nstenergy                = 30000
>
> ns_type                  = grid
> nstlist                  = 10
> pbc                      = xyz
> rlist                    = 1.2
>
> ; Method for doing electrostatics =
> coulombtype              = Shift
> rcoulomb_switch          = 0.0
> rcoulomb                 = 1.2
> epsilon_r                = 15
> vdw_type                 = Shift
> ; cut-off lengths        =
> rvdw_switch              = 0.9
> rvdw                     = 1.2
> DispCorr                 = No
>
> ; Temperature coupling   =
> tcoupl                   = Berendsen
> tc-grps                  = Lipid W
> tau_t                    = 0.3 0.3
> ref_t                    = 323 323
> ; Pressure coupling      =
> Pcoupl              =  berendsen
> Pcoupltype          =  semiisotropic
> tau_p               =  3.0        30
> compressibility     =  3e-5    3e-5
> ref_p               =  1.0        1.0
>
> constraints              = none
> constraint_algorithm     = Lincs
> unconstrained_start      = no
> lincs_order              = 4
> lincs_warnangle          = 30
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Berk Hess <gmx3 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> I am 99.99% sure that there is no problem with COM motion removal in
>> Gromacs.
>> Could you post your mdp parameters?
>>
>> Berk
>>
>> > From: x.periole at rug.nl
>> > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
>> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Martini simulation problem in recentering
>> trajectory so that the bilayer is at the center
>> > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:04:39 +0200
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > I am not sure how to fix the trajectory that has drifted ...
>> >
>> > But if your bilayer drifts even if you use a removal of the COM for
>> > the water and
>> > bilayer separately that means there is problem in the code! And this
>> > should be
>> > fixed.
>> >
>> > XAvier.
>> >
>> > On Sep 2, 2009, at 3:36 PM, maria goranovic wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear Experts
>> > >
>> > > I had posted this earlier, but the problem was not solved by earlier
>> > > suggestions. So am posting again.
>> > >
>> > > I am simulating a POPC bilayer using MARTINI. The simulation ran
>> > > fine, but the bilayer drifted towards the edge of the box along the
>> > > bilayer normal, and eventually some of the atoms crossed the box
>> > > boundaries. In some cases, entire lipid molecules crossed the box
>> > > boundaries. I tried to recenter the trajectory, so that the lipid
>> > > bilayer would be at the center of the box at all times. But for some
>> > > reason, this does not seem to work? I have tried simulations using a
>> > > single comm_group for the entire system, as well as separate ones
>> > > for the lipid and water, but the same problem appears in either case.
>> > >
>> > > Typically, for all-atom bilayers, the following set of commands
>> > > works to correct the drift:
>> > >
>> > > #### first convert original trajectory to a temp. xtc ###
>> > > echo 3 0 | trjconv -s *tpr -f original.xtc -o temp.xtc -center -
>> > > boxcenter zero -pbc mol -n popc.ndx
>> > > #### then convert temp.xtc to the final trajecory ###
>> > > echo 3 0 | trjconv -s k*tpr -f temp.xtc -o final.xtc -center -
>> > > boxcenter zero -pbc mol -n popc.ndx
>> > >
>> > > where groups 3 and 0 are the lipid and the whole system
>> > > respectively, and final.xtc is my final trajectory.
>> > >
>> > > However, this does not work for the MARTINI systems. Looking at the
>> > > final trajectory in VMD, the bilayer is either at the center of the
>> > > box, or it is split at the box edges, with each monomer being in
>> > > different leaflets.
>> > >
>> > > If I plot the center of mass motion of the entire system in the
>> > > original trajectory .. the system seems to drift by ~ 2-3 angstroms
>> > > in one direction. As a result, water center of mass drifts in the
>> > > opposite direction (because of PBC).
>> > >
>> > > Are there any suggestions to sort this out? One option is to write
>> > > the entire trajectory to .gro files, recenter all of them (depending
>> > > upon whether the bilayer is in the center or is split at the box
>> > > edge), and concatenate the gro files again.but this is tedious, even
>> > > if scripted.
>> > >
>> > > Please let me know if i can provide any additional info ?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Maria G.
>> > > Technical University of Denmark
>> > > Copenhagen
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