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Sara baretller sarabiocomputation at gmail.com
Tue Jul 26 23:41:19 CEST 2011


hi all

yes the gro file does have all  ions,  NA + number of ions equal to CL
number. so when i use grep command , i have same number of NA and CL and
that what tells me that something is wrong , because i should have another
50 ions of NA extra  to neutralize the system

Thank you



On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Warren Gallin wrote:
>
>> You are not specifying the ions to be added using the -pname and -nname
>> options with the genion command.
>>
>> Perhaps that is a problem?
>>
>>
> They are not necessary; the default names are used and should be correct
> for all force fields now that naming has been standardized.
>
> Thus far I have seen no evidence that genion is not doing what it is
> supposed to.  It reports finding a net -50 charge on the system.  What
> happens then? Does the output coordinate file contain ions?  The topology
> will not be modified because genion is not being told to (i.e. through the
> use of -p).
>
> -Justin
>
>
>  Warren Gallin
>>
>> On 2011-07-26, at 2:49 PM, Sara baretller wrote:
>>
>>  thanks but i want to neutralize the system , why genion -s file.tpr -conc
>>> 0.2 -neutral -o file.gro -random  does not neutralize the system to 0 .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sara baretller wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> this a part of the md.log  where the system has -50 charge
>>>
>>>  two-body bonded interactions: 0.407 nm, Bond, atoms 514 515
>>>  multi-body bonded interactions: 0.731 nm, G96Angle, atoms 1272 1275
>>> Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.804 nm
>>> Maximum distance for 9 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans: 0.810
>>> nm
>>> Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.810 nm
>>> This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
>>> -rcon
>>> Optimizing the DD grid for 4 cells with a minimum initial size of 0.810
>>> nm
>>> The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 11 Y 11 Z 11
>>> Domain decomposition grid 4 x 1 x 1, separate PME nodes 0
>>> Domain decomposition nodeid 0, coordinates 0 0 0
>>>
>>> Table routines are used for coulomb: TRUE
>>> Table routines are used for vdw:     TRUE
>>> Using shifted Lennard-Jones, switch between 0.9 and 1.2 nm
>>> Cut-off's:   NS: 1.2   Coulomb: 1.2   LJ: 1.2
>>> System total charge: -50.000
>>> Generated table with 1100 data points for Shift.
>>> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
>>> Generated table with 1100 data points for LJ6Shift.
>>> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
>>> Generated table with 1100 data points for LJ12Shift.
>>> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
>>> Configuring nonbonded kernels...
>>> Configuring standard C nonbonded kernels...
>>> Testing ia32 SSE2 support... present
>>>
>>>
>>> There's nothing abnormal here.  genion reports that it finds a -50 charge
>>> on the system.  That's what it's supposed to do.  Based on what it finds in
>>> the topology, it adds neutralizing ions and any additional ions to reach the
>>> specified concentration.  You only have a problem if grompp later complains
>>> that there's still some residual charge (excluding tiny rounding
>>> discrepancies).
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Sara baretller wrote:
>>>
>>>       Hi All
>>>
>>>       I used the genion command using like this "genion -s file.tpr
>>>       -conc 0.2 -neutral -o file.gro -random "  again and i checked
>>>       the md.log file and it says that the net charge is negative like
>>>       it was before using the genion command.
>>>
>>>       so can anybody tell me what is wrong with the line  genion -s
>>>       file.tpr -conc 0.2 -neutral -o file.gro -random .
>>>
>>>
>>>   Please copy and paste the exact (pertinent) output from the log file.
>>>
>>>   -Justin
>>>
>>>       Sara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>>       <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>>       <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>          Sara baretller wrote:
>>>
>>>              Hi all
>>>
>>>              I used the genion to add a concentration and to neutalize
>>> the
>>>              system in the same time by using the
>>>
>>>                   *genion -s file.tpr -conc 0.2 -neutral -o file.gro
>>>       -random
>>>                   so it did add the NA and Cl but it did not
>>>       neutralize the
>>>              system, the net charge of the system still the same
>>> negative.
>>>
>>>
>>>          I find this hard to believe.  The application of genion -conc
>>>          -neutral has worked in every instance I've tried it along every
>>>          Gromacs version.  Check your output again.
>>>
>>>
>>>                   so i tried to use the genion seperate to neutralize the
>>>              charge using the file.tpr and out file as the file.gro,
>>>                 however it reset the file.gro and i lose the NA And
>>>       CL ions
>>>              added for the concentration.
>>>
>>>
>>>          Without the actual sequence of commands, this is not a useful
>>>          description. genion adds ions based on whatever it finds in
>>>       the .tpr
>>>          file (which is presumably not neutralized).  If you do not
>>>       re-create
>>>          a .tpr file in between different additions of ions, you're
>>>       going to
>>>          be undoing work you thought you did.
>>>
>>>          -Justin
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